Forget E Vehicles...

[deputy tom]

What we need today is 1968 VW Beetles. tom.

[Batesmotel]

That or a CJ3 or CJ5

[kerbie18]

4 minutes ago, deputy tom said:

What we need today is 1968 VW Beetles. tom.

I liked those old beetles. If they were built today, there are eleventy bazillion safety regulations that they would fail to meet. They are not safe by modern standards. But, I do like them.

[Huaco Kid]

8 minutes ago, kerbie18 said:

I liked those old beetles. If they were built today, there are eleventy bazillion safety regulations that they would fail to meet.

F the DOT.  Let me decide.

The EPA is another HUGE agency of un-elected triple-chins that are allowed to make laws.  No mo Bugs.

and f the TSA, while I'm at it.

[DAKA]

2 minutes ago, Huaco Kid said:

F the DOT.  Let me decide.

The EPA is another HUGE agency of un-elected triple-chins that are allowed to make laws.  No mo Bugs.

and f the TSA, while I'm at it.

Add RALPH NADER  that Mf"er  He needed to made a name for himself   MAJOR PUTZ

ps You can stick EV's where the sun don't shine

[Maser]

I say get a Ford Pinto.  Definitely less of a fire hazard than the EV batteries. 

[GT4494]

30 minutes ago, Maser said:

I say get a Ford Pinto.  Definitely less of a fire hazard than the EV batteries. 

and if you can't find one a Crown Vic will work..

[Walt Longmire]

4 hours ago, DAKA said:

Add RALPH NADER  that Mf"er  He needed to made a name for himself   MAJOR PUTZ

ps You can stick EV's where the sun don't shine

"Unsafe at any Speed"

[Walt Longmire]

Eff them little tin cans. I drive trucks. 3 Fords and a Kenworth. I have my 'town truck' the F150 Super Crew Lariat, then my low milage OBS F250 hunting and firewood truck. Then there is the eventual replacement that I have around just because, the Super Duty. All are 4x4. The SD has the V-10 and a 6 speed manual. And while we're at it...Eff that fuel milage too. 

[Batesmotel]

5 hours ago, Walt Longmire said:

"Unsafe at any Speed"

That’s when the fun starts. 

[DAKA]

4 hours ago, Batesmotel said:

That’s when the fun starts. 

We had 3 of them, 2 convertibles and a coupe...never had any problems with the handling

[railfancwb]

3 hours ago, DAKA said:

We had 3 of them, 2 convertibles and a coupe...never had any problems with the handling

Read somewhere during those times that the vehicles were unusually sensitive wanting correct tire pressures all around. 

[ChuteTheMall]

After reading "Unsafe at Any Speed" I bought a '62 Corvair Monza and it handled great. It had no seat belts, never needed any.

[ChuteTheMall]

18 hours ago, deputy tom said:

What we need today is 1968 VW Beetles. tom.

Not in the left lane, Gramps.  53 hp ain't enough.

[deputy tom]

1 hour ago, ChuteTheMall said:

Not in the left lane, Gramps.  53 hp ain't enough.

They were plenty fast for me back then. tom.

[Huaco Kid]

Thirty years ago (?), I actually met a large group of near-graduating college kids that had been researching for a long while,  and had located a massive trove of the original VW bug manufacturing equipment.

They were planning on making exact Bug car,  but with electric motors.

Guess it didn't work out.

[Borg warner]

22 hours ago, deputy tom said:

What we need today is 1968 VW Beetles. tom.

I had a 66 with the 1300 engine and It was good if you kept the RPM's up but I think the '67 with the 1500 was the best for power and fuel economy and it was also the best looking with the round numbers and the smaller tail lights.

But the biggest problem with electric cars is that once everyone is driving them we'll have to ration electricity unless we build a lot more power plants, which we shoild start buildin NOW but we can't because the "Greens" (who we use to call the "Reds" back on the 50s) don't WANT any new power plants if they're nuclear, even fission which is close to being developed and is safe and produces no waste, or hydro-electric, (because we have to save the fishes) or natural gas, because it's hydrocarbon, or oil, because it's hydrocarbon too, even though it;s OK to use oil and natural gas from other countries because that somehow saves the Earth more than using our own oil, which we have more of than anyone else.

But the best solution is to drive Hybrids that are more fuel efficient than VW beetles and generate their own electricity to power their own electric motors. But the Greens, formerly known as the Reds, AKA Communists, AKA "Democratic" Socialists, don't want hybrids, and want everyone to drive EV's instead.

 

[tous]

4 hours ago, ChuteTheMall said:

After reading "Unsafe at Any Speed" I bought a '62 Corvair Monza and it handled great. It had no seat belts, never needed any.

Corvairs were in my class for SCCA autocross.

They were solid competitors and not one of them ever flipped over whilst cornering so that the tires squealed.

[tous]

3 minutes ago, Borg warner said:

Socialists, don't want hybrids, and want everyone to drive EV's instead.

I suggest that the hippie Marxists do not want anyone driving privately-owned EV vehicles unless it is driven by their chauffeur or profligate children.

The hippie Marxists want everyone else condemned to mass-transit: electric buses operated by the state (local city commissars) that participate in such graft as is available and, of course, 10% for the Big Guy.

What of those in rural America, you ask?

Those on Bill Gates' collective farms will have no need of transportation and if they do, they can move to a city.

When the government makes transportation possible, they can always make it stop.

 

[janice6]

18 hours ago, Walt Longmire said:

"Unsafe at any Speed"

He vilified the Corvair for it's suspension (Swing Axels that could pump up the shocks) then ignored the VW which was designed the same way.  He was a petulant child at his treatment from GM.  Also an *******.

[Huaco Kid]

6 minutes ago, janice6 said:

Also an *******.

Joan Claybrook.

[Borg warner]

4 hours ago, ChuteTheMall said:

Not in the left lane, Gramps.  53 hp ain't enough.

It's enough  if you know how to make up for it. My 66 Bug could exceed the speed limit on level ground and wouldn't slow down on hills if you exceeded the speed limit when approaching them.

[Walt Longmire]

I fondly remember some of the vehicles I drove and rode around in including Edsels, cars with straight 8 flatheads, Huge Dodges with those massive steel dashboards, cars with push button automatics, Ramblers, plus all the muscle cars of the 60's and 70's. My family owned a wide variety of Mustangs and other hot rods. Some that were produced for only one year or less.

[Borg warner]

21 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said:

I fondly remember some of the vehicles I drove and rode around in including Edsels, cars with straight 8 flatheads, Huge Dodges with those massive steel dashboards, cars with push button automatics, Ramblers, plus all the muscle cars of the 60's and 70's. My family owned a wide variety of Mustangs and other hot rods. Some that were produced for only one year or less.

My Brother still has a 49 dodge 2 door sedan with a flathead six that he bought on line as a crate motor that was an industrial engine and he put a dual carb manifold on it and it will run at 70 mph all day long and gets reasonable gas mileage.

The straight 8's were smooth running engines and the Buick's were overhead valve and had a lot of power

[deputy tom]

1 hour ago, tous said:

Corvairs were in my class for SCCA autocross.

They were solid competitors and not one of them ever flipped over whilst cornering so that the tires squealed.

I drove an Opal Ralley Kadet. Mini Coopers were in my class. Those little Bastages. tom.