Smoke detectors are for idiots!

[crockett]

I think I'll uninstall all those little shits and take them out on the next range trip with some lead in the form of 10mm!

They either wake you up in the middle of the night with a dead battery alarm, and by the time you have found the right one you are fully awake, or you break your neck trying to reach them on a chair, or they go off when you throw some steaks on the grill with the patio door open.

Whoever designed these ******* needs its balls removed.

What's your story?

[Maser]

So you're telling me that's not a kitchen timer? 

[Fog]

I remodeled a house a few years back and per code we upgraded to hard wired interconnected smoke detectors.

Three months after we finished the project they start going off in the middle of the night, never during the day. 

All new batteries seems to make it go away for a few months and then it starts again. Rinse and repeat four times.

Meanwhile electrian that did the work has sold his business and retired. New owner doesn't service the rural area where the work was done.

I've finally figured out which unit is setting the whole house off like a defcon drill in the wee hours of the morning. Can't replace just that one though because units are no longer made.

Customer is a dear lady and been really patient the whole time. Now we are installing a whole new system, if these units act up we'll go back to individual battery fire alarms.

[MO Fugga]

8 minutes ago, Maser said:

So you're telling me that's not a kitchen timer? 

 

[Batesmotel]

New Smart Detectors have been made. They know the difference in food smoke and house fire smoke. They can’t be imported into the USA. The industry makes way too much money on troubleshooting and replacing detectors that go off because of an overcooked meal. 

[DAKA]

Smacking it with a broom usually works

[janice6]

1 hour ago, crockett said:

I think I'll uninstall all those little shits and take them out on the next range trip with some lead in the form of 10mm!

They either wake you up in the middle of the night with a dead battery alarm, and by the time you have found the right one you are fully awake, or you break your neck trying to reach them on a chair, or they go off when you throw some steaks on the grill with the patio door open.

Whoever designed these ******* needs its balls removed.

What's your story?

Long ago I was visited by a company rep, who told me that as a new homeowner with a family, I had a responsibility to my family to provide for their security in case of fire.

He said that he offered me and my family fire security.  A fire alarm that was a self contained bell alarm that was triggered by the heat of the fire. (a bell and spring with a woods metal trigger) and he could supply these to me for only $300 each.

I told him to pound sand!  He was irate and asked me what other cheaper positive alarm system I could install for less!

I told him, I would put firecrackers on top of all my window jams!

[crockett]

30 minutes ago, janice6 said:

Long ago I was visited by a company rep, who told me that as a new homeowner with a family, I had a responsibility to my family to provide for their security in case of fire.

He said that he offered me and my family fire security.  A fire alarm that was a self contained bell alarm that was triggered by the heat of the fire. (a bell and spring with a woods metal trigger) and he could supply these to me for only $300 each.

I told him to pound sand!  He was irate and asked me what other cheaper positive alarm system I could install for less!

I told him, I would put firecrackers on top of all my window jams!

I;ll do it reloader style.  I'll just sprinkle a brick of primers all over the place. That will do it.

[LostinTexas]

Ours are connected. They get fresh batteries every year. I'm 8 years into the second set, so they are up for turn over in the next 18 months or so. Once or maybe twice a battery crapped out setting off the battery chirp, but that is it. I don't buy according to price tag, high or low.

CO gets a 7 year turn over, and has never gone off. I swear the way folks here complain, they would go on the forum and complain the alarm from the CO detector gave them a headache and made them nauseous so the took out the batteries.

We use the dual band smoke units. Optical and thermal, or how ever they work. We don't install them in a cooking area. Ya gotta use some smarts.

Happy ranting

[LostinTexas]

1 hour ago, Batesmotel said:

New Smart Detectors have been made. They know the difference in food smoke and house fire smoke. They can’t be imported into the USA. The industry makes way too much money on troubleshooting and replacing detectors that go off because of an overcooked meal. 

Of all the folks I wouldn't have expected to use a smoke alarm for a cook timer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Walt Longmire]

My smoke detectors were hard wire installed in 1987. They are not interconnected. Easy to tell where the problem is. They aren't the high pitched ones either that us old loggers can't hear. Nope. These babies make a very loud buzzing noise. You ain't sleeping through it. Also have 3 CO detectors due to the home being serviced by NG and also the woodstove. YES, woodstoves can emit CO, and I know a family that was overcome that way.

[crockett]

31 minutes ago, LostinTexas said:

I swear the way folks here complain, they would go on the forum and complain the alarm from the CO detector gave them a headache and made them nauseous so the took out the batteries.

We don't install them in a cooking area. Ya gotta use some smarts.

Happy ranting

 

27 minutes ago, LostinTexas said:

Of all the folks I wouldn't have expected to use a smoke alarm for a cook timer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Was that aimed at me? I didn't install them, they came with the house and one is placed in the kitchen, by code. The batteries in mine last a bit over 1 year, not 7.

This thread was meant to be fun.

Didn't you put me on ignore? Please put me back on.

[Batesmotel]

27 minutes ago, LostinTexas said:

Of all the folks I wouldn't have expected to use a smoke alarm for a cook timer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I’ve only burned down one kitchen. I was 12. 

[Swampfox762]

2 hours ago, crockett said:

I think I'll uninstall all those little shits and take them out on the next range trip with some lead in the form of 10mm!

They either wake you up in the middle of the night with a dead battery alarm, and by the time you have found the right one you are fully awake, or you break yBettour neck trying to reach them on a chair, or they go off when you throw some steaks on the grill with the patio door open.

Whoever designed these ******* needs its balls removed.

What's your story?

Better check your Insurance on that Bro.  Mine just do one "Beep" bout every 5 minutes to tell me the battery is goin out.  Yeah, it's happened at night like about 3 times in 20 years.  I can deal with that. I'm use to the one in the kitchen, and if there's anything that's gonna make "smoke". I just pull it down and stick it in the living room. I installed it, so it dont have any actual power.  You're "aggitated" lately.  Must be this fuckin Humidity.  Me too...SICK of it!!!

[Batesmotel]

1 minute ago, crockett said:

 

Was that aimed at me? I didn't install them, they came with the house and one is placed in the kitchen, by code. The batteries in mine last a bit over 1 year, not 7.

This thread was meant to be fun.

Didn't you put me on ignore? Please put me back on.

No. Probably Me. I’m a chef. But there have been “incidents”. 

[Swampfox762]

5 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said:

 Also have 3 CO detectors due to the home being serviced by NG and also the woodstove. YES, woodstoves can emit CO, and I know a family that was overcome that way.

Smart man.  Don't have that problem, good on you.

[Swampfox762]

2 hours ago, Batesmotel said:

New Smart Detectors have been made. They know the difference in food smoke and house fire smoke. They can’t be imported into the USA. The industry makes way too much money on troubleshooting and replacing detectors that go off because of an overcooked meal. 

"murica"...

[Maser]

11 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said:

YES, woodstoves can emit CO, and I know a family that was overcome that way.

 

Yup, that's how Brad Delp from Boston killed himself. 

[holyjohnson]

3 hours ago, crockett said:

I think I'll uninstall all those little shits and take them out on the next range trip with some lead in the form of 10mm!

 

Campfire Brother The Irony is Worth it.

[Walt Longmire]

The apartment at my shop has 2 detectors wired together. When one fails they both beep so it's unpossible to know which one needs the attention. The new detectors have a shelf life and need to be replaced every few years. Not a fan.

[railfancwb]

51 minutes ago, Batesmotel said:

No. Probably Me. I’m a chef. But there have been “incidents”. 

Put two smoke alarms in a pre-code house. One battery the other AC. Had periodic chirping about battery. One night the AC unit started screaming to beat the band. Naturally I went looking for the fire rather than running everyone out of the house. Wife had put some eggs on to boil then forgot them. 

[Batesmotel]

My bad one was as a kid getting a wok of oil too hot and it went up. 

[jmohme]

The wife and I were on a motorcycle trip a few years back. We checked into a fairly nice hotel. We were settling into our room and heard a chirp. "What was that?" my wife asks. A few minutes later we hear it again. and again, and again.

Finally figured out it was the smoke detector. We saw the red LED flat when it would chirp. I called down to the front desk and asked for a different room, but we had gotten the last one, and it was late, so I said screw it and claimed on a chair and removed the battery. A few minutes later, I hear the chirp again, so I get back up on the chair with my multitool in hand, removed the mounting screws and unplugged it.

At that point, I figured I had better inform the guy at the front desk what I had done, and rather than calling him, I headed to the front desk with the unplugged smoke detector in one hand, and the 9volt battery that I had removed from it earlier in my other hand. I informed the young man what I had done and set the two items on the counter. He started to inform me of the error of my ways, when the disconnected and batteryless smoke detectors chirped on the counter.

I went back to my room and went to sleep.

As worthless as a covid shot!

[Pima Pants]

2 hours ago, janice6 said:

Long ago I was visited by a company rep, who told me that as a new homeowner with a family, I had a responsibility to my family to provide for their security in case of fire.

He said that he offered me and my family fire security.  A fire alarm that was a self contained bell alarm that was triggered by the heat of the fire. (a bell and spring with a woods metal trigger) and he could supply these to me for only $300 each.

I told him to pound sand!  He was irate and asked me what other cheaper positive alarm system I could install for less!

I told him, I would put firecrackers on top of all my window jams!

After a lengthy sales pitch, the rep unveiled a large, gold colored monstrosity, basically a big metal bell. I remember laughing out loud as I escorted him out the front door.

[crockett]

8 minutes ago, jmohme said:

The wife and I were on a motorcycle trip a few years back. We checked into a fairly nice hotel. We were settling into our room and heard a chirp. "What was that?" my wife asks. A few minutes later we hear it again. and again, and again.

Finally figured out it was the smoke detector. We saw the red LED flat when it would chirp. I called down to the front desk and asked for a different room, but we had gotten the last one, and it was late, so I said screw it and claimed on a chair and removed the battery. A few minutes later, I hear the chirp again, so I get back up on the chair with my multitool in hand, removed the mounting screws and unplugged it.

At that point, I figured I had better inform the guy at the front desk what I had done, and rather than calling him, I headed to the front desk with the unplugged smoke detector in one hand, and the 9volt battery that I had removed from it earlier in my other hand. I informed the young man what I had done and set the two items on the counter. He started to inform me of the error of my ways, when the disconnected and batteryless smoke detectors chirped on the counter.

I went back to my room and went to sleep.

As worthless as a covid shot!

 

They tend to keep chirping for a few minutes with the remaining charge in the capacitor, after you pulled the battery. Makes it even harder to find the right one. You pull the batteries on one, go back to bed, hear it again, take down another one, just to find out that you got the right one in the first place.

I swear, those things have been invented by some evil arses.