gwalchmai Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Y'all hear anything about this? https://apnews.com/article/germany-scholz-protests-farmers-extremists-subsidy-cuts-c550cf5db1bd37b697a5214b094f537b BY GEIR MOULSON Updated 6:12 AM EST, January 13, 2024 Share BERLIN (AP) — German Chancellor Olaf Scholz called for calm and a readiness to accept compromises on Saturday as the country faces protests by farmers angry about a plan to cut their fuel subsidies. He warned of extremists stoking rage against a backdrop of wider discontent. Farmers have blocked major roads and snarled traffic across the country with their tractors as part of a week of protests against the plan to scrap tax breaks on diesel used in agriculture. They went ahead with the demonstrations although the government watered down its original plan, saying that a car tax exemption for farming vehicles would be retained and the cuts in the diesel tax breaks would be staggered over three years. The German chancellor said in a video message that “we took the farmers’ arguments to heart” and insisted the government came up with “a good compromise,” though farmers continue to insist on fully reversing the subsidy cuts. He also said officials will discuss “what else we can do so that agriculture has a good future.” The plan to scrap the tax breaks resulted from the need to fill a large hole in the 2024 budget. The farmers’ protests come at a time of deep general discontent with the center-left Scholz’s three-party government, which has become notorious for frequent public squabbles. Scholz acknowledged concerns that go well beyond farming subsidies, saying that crises, conflicts and worries about the future are unsettling people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jmohme Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 It shoudl be a pretty obvious thing that you dont want to piss off the farmers. Something about not biting the had that feeds you. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I've found them to be bland and entirely normal looking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Cicero Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Subsidies are the devil. The market adapts to their existence and then people, in this case the farmers, can’t survive without them, and now look what’s happening. If the idiotic govt stopped extorting taxes from its citizens, the citizens would have more $ and be able to afford the higher prices the farmers would charge to cover their fuel costs without being subsidized . Instead, the entire national economy is out the cost of the inefficient administration of their moronic subsidies/wealth redistribution plans (aka vote buying scheme). Serves them right if they get UN-ELECTED. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 14 hours ago, jmohme said: It shoudl be a pretty obvious thing that you dont want to piss off the farmers. Something about not biting the had that feeds you. AND they have poop cannons... 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 12 hours ago, Batesmotel said: The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money. The REAL problem is that the "Running out of Money" doesn't happen till those in power have taken their share and retired 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Tractors lined up in convoy are an increasingly common sight in Europe Similar demonstrations, marked in some instances by violence and pointed encroachment into politicians' private sphere, have at times caused huge shutdowns in the Netherlands in the last few years. Taking aim at planned measures to grapple with chronic nitrogen pollution, the protest movement there even spawned a new political party in 2019, the agrarian-populist Farmer Citizen Movement (BBB). In Belgium, Spain and France, farmers have also taken to the streets to voice their discontent about the effects of planned environmental reforms and high costs. Poland and other eastern European states have seen a similar ripple, though these related largely to the import of cheap Ukrainian grain into the EU. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 What can any .gov not eff up. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janice6 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 6 hours ago, pipedreams said: Support each other against a perverse government. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Tractors began heading for Berlin from all over the country in the middle of the night. Approx 3000 trucks and 2000 tractors are currently blocking the main avenues up to the Bundestag, Chancellery, and Brandenburg Gate. The Berlin Police were trying in vain to divert tractors from the downtown area and send them to the 1930 Olympic Stadium on the edge of the city instead. The farmers are not complying. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 How about now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Cicero Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I love that all of Europe would tell the German gov't where to shove it, but I'm still completely freaked out that they are protesting at LOSING THEIR SUBSIDY. (I wonder how much the gov't interferes with the pric. of unsubsidized diesel in Europe...) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 We have witnessed the folly of the government controlling a market, especially agriculture. That's why the Soviets, despite more then enough resources, couldn't feed their country and had to buy food, mainly from us. The subsidies and set asides and paying for empty fields here darned near destroyed the American farmer. Fear not, they will do it again with the same or even worse results. Good thing the benevolent Mexicans come north each year to pick the crops. America had no food for 200 years until the campesinos arrived. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 While there is a lot of talk about the farmers because of their tractors, there are many other groups involved in the protest. People are unhappy with the EU policies and are taking to the streets in a number of countries. GERMANY * Airports and bus and train stations across Germany were at a standstill on Monday, causing disruption for millions at the start of the working week during one of the largest walkouts in decades as Europe's biggest economy reels from inflation. * Employees are pressing for higher wages to blunt the effects of inflation, which reached 9.3% in February. * Germany, which was heavily dependent on Russia for gas before the war in Ukraine, has been particularly hard hit by higher prices as it scrambled for new energy sources, with inflation rates exceeding the euro-area average in recent months. FRANCE * President Emmanuel Macron said he would press ahead with reforms in France, dodging a union leader's call to suspend a new pension law that raises the retirement age to 64 amid some of the country's worst street violence in years. * Weeks of protests over the pension plans became more violent after Macron's government, which lacks a clear majority, pushed the legislation through parliament without a vote. * Industrial action disrupting French refineries has left some petrol stations short of fuel, also hitting liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminals, power supply and nuclear reactor maintenance. BRITAIN * The British government is engaged in pay disputes across several sectors as workers demand higher wages to keep pace with surging inflation, with strikes in schools, on railways and in hospitals taking place on a regular basis. * Security staff at London's Heathrow Airport have voted to strike for 10 days, trade union Unite said. The walkout will involve over 1,400 staff. * More than 3,000 British civil servants across four government departments will strike from April 11 in a dispute over pay, pensions and job security, the Public and Commercial Services (PCS) union said. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/strikes-protests-europe-over-cost-living-pay-welfare-2023-03-27/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Keep watching this story as much as possible folks. It might be difficult to find the details because Western corporate media do not want to cover the specifics, but the push back deep inside the EU is well organized, planned and strong. On day one, the German farmers began their protest, and began blocking transport hubs, main arteries and government buildings around the country. On day #2, a large number of Polish truckers crossed the border to provide additional support and block the roads and border crossings. Today, on day #3 of the protest, the German railway workers have joined. You might remember the “solidarity” movement from the 1980s when the general working class in Poland took to the streets and triggered mass protests – eventually forcing the collapse of the governing structure. Well, here we are 40 years later, and a multi-nation force is aligned in the effort to duplicate the outcome. This is massive push back against the globalist and WEF system. The railway strike forces transport companies to use trucking. The truckers are supporting the farmers. The farmers are blocking the roads. This is a multidimensional approach, well thought out and well planned. Do not disregard what is taking place and understand there are many EU politicians watching closely. Germany is by far the largest economy in the EU. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/10/massive-pushback-german-railway-workers-join-farmer-protest-german-and-polish-truckers-providing-additional-support/ https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/01/16/there-it-is-eu-president-says-number-one-challenge-for-global-control-systems-in-next-two-years-is-to-control-information-and-speech/ She goes on to note that political dissent, what she calls “polarization within our societies” must be controlled, as the ability of individuals and groups to assemble against the WEF plan remains a constant threat to the fulfillment of the agenda. [Insert a picture of dissident enemy #1, Donald Trump, here] Yes, you do not need to interpret their intent, you only need to listen to their words and accept them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 On 1/13/2024 at 4:27 PM, Mrs.Cicero said: Subsidies are the devil. The market adapts to their existence and then people, in this case the farmers, can’t survive without them, and now look what’s happening. If the idiotic govt stopped extorting taxes from its citizens, the citizens would have more $ and be able to afford the higher prices the farmers would charge to cover their fuel costs without being subsidized . Instead, the entire national economy is out the cost of the inefficient administration of their moronic subsidies/wealth redistribution plans (aka vote buying scheme). Serves them right if they get UN-ELECTED. If I correctly read the linked article the “subsidy” is actually a tax reduction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Cicero Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 15 hours ago, railfancwb said: If I correctly read the linked article the “subsidy” is actually a tax reduction. I like that much, much better... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Big Setback for the Davos Assholes https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/02/06/brussels-blin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Dutch pro-farmer political activist Eva Vlaardingerboek said: “This is good news because it shows that protesting works and putting pressure on our overlords works. However, just dropping the requirements for 2040 is not enough. The entire agenda has to go. The Green Deal and the NetZero scam has to go. We’ve won a battle, not the war.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 https://www.bitchute.com/video/PG0avaAojZKW/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 10 hours ago, pipedreams said: Dutch pro-farmer political activist Eva Vlaardingerboek said: “This is good news because it shows that protesting works and putting pressure on our overlords works. However, just dropping the requirements for 2040 is not enough. The entire agenda has to go. The Green Deal and the NetZero scam has to go. We’ve won a battle, not the war.” They can see the result of electing brain dead environmental idiots bent on destroying a culture and country by watching America. Even a fool can see where this will take us. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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