Silentpoet Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just a little bit of mostly routine maintenance. Clean the battery terminals, change oil, transmission fluid and filter, nothing extraordinary. Got the terminals clean. No problem. Oil drained and plug back in, no problem. Oil filter removed, problem! In over 30 years of changing oil I have never had a more stubborn filter. 4 different filter wrenches just deformed it in varying ways. 2 different screw drivers just maybe tore the outside. It may have budged a little but not so you could say for sure. So it is time for drastic measures. Milwaukee angle grinder first. The next step is the little oscillating saw, but I have to get this eye appointment in. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Bet you wished you'd bought one of those toilet paper roll filters from JC Whitney now, huh? But seriously, what is the deal with oil filters? There are 87 different sizes and each one requires a different size wrench! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I use large pliers on the stubborn ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I’ll trade ya. Trying to find a part even the Jeep dealer can’t find. Easy to fix if I had the part. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentpoet Posted May 16, 2022 Author Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Walt Longmire said: I use large pliers on the stubborn ones. They just bent it. I’m still not done.. I have mostly just the base of the filter left. Got it cut in a couple of places but barely even budges. Well back under the truck for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Silentpoet said: They just bent it. I’m still not done.. I have mostly just the base of the filter left. Got it cut in a couple of places but barely even budges. Well back under the truck for me. Your turning it the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said: Your turning it the wrong direction. RIGHTY TIGHTY LEFTY LOOSEY Except when you are upside down under the truck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Walt Longmire said: I use large pliers on the stubborn ones. I've got 3' channel-locks. They don't get used very often, but sometimes you just need to crush and torque the hell out of something. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I’d say torch but, oil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyo Tim Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 The worst ones I've dealt with are the ones where the installer used a filter wrench to tighten the new one on. Then the new gasket swells like it's supposed to and chingow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Worst one I ever had was one a customer who didn’t know left from right worked on first. And any car made by Triumph. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Just a reminder, the ejector rod on Smith and Wesson revolvers is a reverse thread. And some Chrysler products in the 1960s and 1970s had reverse thread lug nuts. Left to tighten, right to loosen. Oh, and if you are one of those galoots that, over the years, put Loctite on the ejector rod so that it took me far more time and effort to remove it - don't. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, tous said: And some Chrysler products in the 1960s and 1970s had reverse thread lug nuts. Left to tighten, right to loosen. IIRC Right side, left thread. Left side, right thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Know any local SOTs that you could donate the old filter to? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 11 hours ago, tous said: Oh, and if you are one of those galoots that, over the years, put Loctite on the ejector rod so that it took me far more time and effort to remove it - don't. I developed a habit of tightening the ejector rod as an integral step in the process of closing the cylinder. I don't even think about it anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 If snugged, the ejector rod rarely rotates such that it will be loose. It is a left-hand thread because Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Taurus, heck, everybody except Colt has a cylinder that rotates counter-clockwise, so if the ejector rod had a normal right-hand thread, the rotation of the cylinder could loosen it. Thus, the reverse thread. But, you already knew that. I used a chuck from a old 3/8 inch drill and padded the jaws with leather as a remove/install tool. If you suspect someone has used Loctite, heat from a propane torch gently applied will usually break it loose. I have, over the years, had to replace the entire extractor because someone over-tightened the ejector rod. The threads are rather fragile. Gorilla force is not needed or desired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Not even the dealership can get me the little rubber boot that snaps on top of the transmission. I might have found one on eBay. Planned obsolescence at its finest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I solved this a few (actually many) years ago with a sheet of TEFLON that I very carefully cut to fit...Don't know where you'd get it now... Would this work ? https://www.eplastics.com/sheets/ptfe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 5 hours ago, tous said: If snugged, the ejector rod rarely rotates such that it will be loose. It is a left-hand thread because Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Taurus, heck, everybody except Colt has a cylinder that rotates counter-clockwise, so if the ejector rod had a normal right-hand thread, the rotation of the cylinder could loosen it. Thus, the reverse thread. But, you already knew that. I used a chuck from a old 3/8 inch drill and padded the jaws with leather as a remove/install tool. If you suspect someone has used Loctite, heat from a propane torch gently applied will usually break it loose. I have, over the years, had to replace the entire extractor because someone over-tightened the ejector rod. The threads are rather fragile. Gorilla force is not needed or desired. Word. I don't Loctite the ejector rods at all. I prefer they be hand tight. In fact I don't Loctite anything I can think of. Fingernail polish seems to work best for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ay Dios Mio Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I helped a dear friend do her first oil change on a new engine installed in her old Chevie flatbed. The oil filter didn't give up with dedicated filter wrenches or strap wrench or giant slip joint pliers. Screw drivers didn't do it either. All that was left was the base. Eventually I thought I might could thread long bolts through the holes in the base. I think I used my steering wheel puller or harmonic balancer puller...I forget which. What made it so I could reef between the bolts with a breaker bar was barely chewed gum with lotsa flavor and sugar to hold the threads from falling out. It worked...I are persistent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Still wondering if the oil filter at the heart of this thread finally gave up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentpoet Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 4 hours ago, railfancwb said: Still wondering if the oil filter at the heart of this thread finally gave up. Finally. The oil change from hell is done. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Silentpoet said: Finally. The oil change from hell is done. And for your NEXT challenge… reassemble it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Silentpoet said: Finally. The oil change from hell is done. I hope you disposed of that in an environmentally responsible manner... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, gwalchmai said: I hope you disposed of that in an environmentally responsible manner... USE ONE STICK OF DYNAMITE 10 minutes ago, gwalchmai said: I hope you disposed of that in an environmentally responsible manner... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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