Borg warner Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Why Mars? Why not the Moon? The moon is much closer and there's not sufficient oxygen to sustain human life either on the moon OR Mars. The Martian atmosphere is toxic, 95% carbon dioxide, 3% nitrogen, 1.6% argon, and traces of other gases including oxygen totaling less than 0.4%. SpaceX CEO Elon Musk updates Mars colonization plans Planetary Society Sept 2017 SpaceX CEO Elon Musk presented an updated version of his Mars colonization plans today, during a widely anticipated talk at the 68th International Astronautical Congress in Adelaide, Australia. The new concept features a slightly smaller rocket and spacecraft designed for a broader range of applications beyond Mars, including a Moon base and point-to-point Earth transport. SpaceX will eventually phase out its Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy and Dragon vehicles completely, relying on its new Mars architecture for all missions. Today's plans are an evolution of the concept Musk revealed at last year's International Astronautical Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico. That presentation unveiled an audacious plan to place a million people on Mars in 40 to 100 years. The updated concept does not drastically depart from SpaceX's original plan, but does add insights into how the new rocket and spacecraft—which Musk estimated would cost $10 billion to develop—might be funded. "The most important thing I want to convey in this presentation is that I think we have figured out how to pay for it," Musk said. An evolving concept Musk's plan to colonize Mars revolves around a large rocket, codenamed the BFR, (Big F'ing Rocket) which blasts a spaceship carrying up to 100 people into orbit before returning to the launch pad for an upright landing. The rocket then blasts off again carrying a fresh load of fuel for the transport ship. Next, the colonists depart for Mars. During landing, 99 percent of the vehicle's energy will be shed by trawling through Mars' atmosphere, Musk said, before a final landing burn settles the vehicle onto the Martian surface. As for the booster itself, it is now shorter, smaller in width and equipped with less engines. And the latest news: https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a31248703/elon-musk-spacex-build-new-starship-every-week/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluth Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Funny how this guy is suppose to be so smart and innovative, but yet doesn't know the difference between a flamethrower and a torch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 where are the flying cars ? thats all i want to know . we were supposed to be using flying cars by now . hell with mars , i want my flying car now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabusa Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 They need to start with the Democrats and socialists.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Are you suggesting that a Mars colony should be a modern Jamestown? We know how that all worked out for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, tous said: Are you suggesting that a Mars colony should be a modern Jamestown? We know how that all worked out for them. Governments don't worry too much about people that far away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Alabusa said: They need to start with the Democrats and socialists. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Could be a take off on a TV show version of Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy, where all the public phone sanitizers are sent into space with the premise that their world was going to die. All the while it really was to get rid of the phone sanitizers. The show ended with the fateful news that all the planets beings died anyway, from a virus they caught from the public telephones. Meanwhile, the phone sanitizers started a new world of their own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 And no provision for a (possibly) needed return. once your there, you will die there. Weeks, months, or years later 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, Dric902 said: And no provision for a (possibly) needed return. once your there, you will die there. Weeks, months, or years later Generally speaking, colonization has always been a one way trip. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 4:25 PM, ASH said: where are the flying cars ? thats all i want to know . we were supposed to be using flying cars by now . hell with mars , i want my flying car now He sent one of the Tesla automobiles into orbit. Does that count? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 5:11 PM, tous said: Are you suggesting that a Mars colony should be a modern Jamestown? We know how that all worked out for them. are you saying there`s angry Natives ready to Attack on Mars? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Mars has Ice which means Oxygen can be Produced there. one way or another Humans will go to Mars. our Nature is Exploring and Migrating, there was a time when moving from Europe to The New World was the equivalent of going to the Moon. even with all the risks to be the First Human Being to step foot on another Planet, i`d take that chance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, holyjohnson said: are you saying there`s angry Natives ready to Attack on Mars? Just ask John Carter. He's been to Helium. He got Dejah Thoris' autograph. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, tous said: Just ask John Carter. He's been to Helium. He got Dejah Thoris' autograph. i thought Quaid cleaned the whole Colony up in the 90s? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrB Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 5:25 PM, ASH said: i want my flying car now I've been promised that for years. I want mine also. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 5:31 PM, Alabusa said: They need to start with the Democrats and socialists. We really don't need them to trash a new planet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, tous said: Just ask John Carter. He's been to Helium. He got Dejah Thoris' autograph. My fondest wish was that someone would look at me the way the princess looked at him!!!!!! One of my favorite movies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Never saw the movie. Enjoyed the books as a lad. I think that it was the first series, other than the Hardy Boys and Doc Savage, that I read, simply because the various books were lined up in the same place on the library shelf. I disliked libraries only because I want to own books, not borrow books. Otherwise, few other places I would rather spend my time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, tous said: Never saw the movie. Enjoyed the books as a lad. I think that it was the first series, other than the Hardy Boys and Doc Savage, that I read, simply because the various books were lined up in the same place on the library shelf. I disliked libraries only because I want to own books, not borrow books. Otherwise, few other places I would rather spend my time. I read the story in a "Little Big Book" from the 40's. One half the book was the new story, "Tarzan", and the other half was John Carter. Edgar Rice Burroughs stories. I thought the movie was an excellent portrayal of the book. It was all Computer Graphics, but extremely well done. I looked for flaws in the movie while watching it but it was excellent. It even has the Martian equivalent of a Puppy!!!! At it's time it was the second most expensive movie ever made. But it bombed. I think people couldn't accept the story. It used to be on late night movies but I haven't seen it for some time now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrB Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 hours ago, janice6 said: I read the story in a "Little Big Book" from the 40's. That brings back memories. I have a couple of those here my dad had. I remember reading them as a boy. Now I gotta go find them. Dave.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&P15T Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-NkX86uPI0 Edited March 14, 2020 by M&P15T 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrB Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) I want my jet pack also to fly back and forth to work . We were promised those things. I'm still waiting. Dave Edited March 14, 2020 by DrB 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWARREN123 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Well now would be a good time to go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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