Mrs.Cicero Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I just think this is way cool. (Some of you will get it later)... https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-60662541 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Posted March 9, 2022 Administrators Share Posted March 9, 2022 Why in the world does South Africa have an Icebreaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfost11 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eric said: Why in the world does South Africa have an Icebreaker? In case hell freezes over? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, Eric said: Why in the world does South Africa have an Icebreaker? To look for lost Antarctic expeditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Eric said: Why in the world does South Africa have an Icebreaker? US's covid relief funds. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minervadoe Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Eric said: Why in the world does South Africa have an Icebreaker? That is an interesting question. So, I had to look it up. My guess would be that they are attempting to play the long game on any value that can be had in owning a piece of Antarctica. They are pretty far south and it's all ocean between them and Antarctica. Their ice breaker, the S.A. Agulhas hauls supplies to Antarctica. Quote It was a question of building a new ice- breaker ship for South Africa, or pulling out of Antarctica, where the country has had a base since 1961 as one of the original 12 signatories to the Antarctic Treaty. Quote quite an investment from the South African government in its bases south of Cape Town. Sanae IV was completed in 1997, but Marion Island last year saw the opening of a new base at a cost of R270-million. It took seven years to complete the research base, as conditions and logistics allowed for only a 50-man team working in the good-weather windows running from August to November, and March to May. Quote Marion Island is South African soil and for it to remain so the country must keep a presence on the island. However, the South African base on Antarctica is the same as all the countries represented there –merely a research and weather station far from home, perched on an icy continent that does not belong to any country. Quote The South African base itself is surrounded by the German, Finnish, Swedish, Norwegian and Indian bases, and is responsible for all search-and-rescue functions for these countries. Quote “This happened because we are in the middle of all the bases, we have helicopters on standby, and the SA Agulhas normally stays there with us,” explains Dreyer. Apart from the Antarctic deep freeze, South Africa also has a research and weather base on Britain’s Gough Island. All of these bases – Gough Island, Marion Island and Sanae IV – will be serviced by the SA Agulhas II. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/sas-ice-queen-sa-agulhas-ii.1496982/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._A._Agulhas_II 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunboat1 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/extraordinary-500-year-old-shipwreck-rewriting-history-age-discovery-180978825/ And on the same day, another extremely important historical shipwreck article. These are interesting finds! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPTim Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Eric said: Why in the world does South Africa have an Icebreaker? Makes more sense than pakistan having an icebreaker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Posted March 9, 2022 Administrators Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, NPTim said: Makes more sense than pakistan having an icebreaker. I wonder what country somewhere like Pakistan imports it’s cheaply made crap from? Who makes cheaper crap than they do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Eric said: Why in the world does South Africa have an Icebreaker? Must be about that Flat Earth Ice Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minervadoe Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Gunboat1 said: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/extraordinary-500-year-old-shipwreck-rewriting-history-age-discovery-180978825/ And on the same day, another extremely important historical shipwreck article. These are interesting finds! Thanks!! A few excerpts from your link.... Quote the wreck of a ship called Gribshunden, a spectacular “floating castle” that served as the royal flagship of King Hans of Denmark more than 500 years ago. Historical sources record how the ship sank in the summer of 1495, along with a large contingent of soldiers and Danish noblemen, although not the king himself, who was ashore at the time. Quote the relic provides a unique opportunity to examine a state-of-the-art warship from a little-understood period, when a revolution in shipbuilding and naval warfare was reshaping geopolitics and transforming civilization. What Gribshunden represents, researchers think, is nothing less than the end of the Middle Ages and the birth of the modern world. Quote there was a tradition of “carvel” construction, in which hull planks were placed edge to edge. In the 15th century, carvel planking spread north, becoming the design of choice for kings and noblemen throughout Europe. Carvel-built hulls gained their strength from the internal ribs, or skeleton, which also made it easier to build larger ships that could carry extensive cargo, crew and stores. And crucially, in contrast to clinker vessels, they could accommodate gun ports, which meant that heavy guns could be carried deep inside the hull without toppling a ship. Quote But no example of these carvel-built “ships of discovery,” Iberian or otherwise, had ever been found intact, Quote A chronicle of the life of Sten Sture, the Swedish rebel, described the long-lost Gribshunden as a rare “kraffweel,” or carvel, and what Eriksson realized during his dive was that the wreck’s hull planks were laid edge to edge. It really was Hans’ royal ship: one of these pioneering vessels had been hiding in the shallow green waters of Sweden all along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Eric said: Why in the world does South Africa have an Icebreaker? Fell off a Truck.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 i was reading this earlier today, and thought it was Incredible they found that Ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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