pipedreams Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Again it politics not medicine............... "Federal health agencies haven’t recognized ivermectin as an effective treatment for COVID-19 patients. According to Doctor Leland Stillman, the reason is more political than scientific, because otherwise there would be no basis for lockdowns or vaccine mandates. “If ivermectin were recognized by the public health and academic establishment as the drug that it is, that treats acute viral illnesses, one of which is COVID-19, the entire justification for lockdowns, mandates, let alone vaccine research and development would evaporate overnight,” Stillman told The Epoch Times in a recent interview. According to Section 564 of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (pdf), the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) can only issue emergency use authorization if certain criteria are met, including “there is no adequate, approved, and available alternative to the product.”" https://www.theepochtimes.com/if-ivermectin-recognized-justification-for-lockdowns-and-vaccine-mandates-would-evaporate-doctor_4222068.html "Stillman said he is able to speak up because he’s one of very few doctors in the country who takes cash and doesn’t work with insurance companies. “Because the reality is that a lot of the care being provisioned right now, it’s just being provisioned based on some bureaucrat’s idea of what’s good medicine, not based on what the patients actually want and think is worth it to them.”" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Ivermectin, HCQ, several very good corticosteroids, and maybe others. I laughed at an article talking about Dexamethasone being a horse medicine that showed "some" promise in treating the mess. Been using the combination of Dex, OTC's, Vitamin D, and Zink for lots of years in remote medicine. Usually had folks up and running in just a day or two. Hardest part was keeping them on meds through the regimen. If the combination ever got out the shysters would lose their ski trips from the Pharma companies and flu shot manufacturers. If there is a treatment, there is no funding for "vaccines". 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 As someone said FOLLOW THE SCIENCE NOT THE SCIENTISTS...BUT...SO MUCH CONFUSION WHAT really works? So much MONEY involved who knows? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, DAKA said: As someone said FOLLOW THE SCIENCE NOT THE SCIENTISTS...BUT...SO MUCH CONFUSION WHAT really works? So much MONEY involved who knows? Just watch as it gets closer to the 2022 elections, the virus will magically disappear or rarely be reported about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 And maybe Dr F will disappear from the scene as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, railfancwb said: And maybe Dr F will disappear from the scene as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I think hospitals and clinic should be giving this stuff out for free. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, LostinTexas said: Ivermectin, HCQ, several very good corticosteroids, and maybe others. I laughed at an article talking about Dexamethasone being a horse medicine that showed "some" promise in treating the mess. Been using the combination of Dex, OTC's, Vitamin D, and Zink for lots of years in remote medicine. Usually had folks up and running in just a day or two. Hardest part was keeping them on meds through the regimen. If the combination ever got out the shysters would lose their ski trips from the Pharma companies and flu shot manufacturers. If there is a treatment, there is no funding for "vaccines". You might be interested or already know about Black Seed Oil and having some of therapeutic benefits as Ivermectin supposedly. Something new to me but after reading a bit about it, it appears to a good preventive for many things. Black seed oil comes from the Nigella sativa (N. sativa) plant. As a amateur with this sort of thing tell me if I'm barking up the wrong tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, pipedreams said: You might be interested or already know about Black Seed Oil and having some of therapeutic benefits as Ivermectin supposedly. Something new to me but after reading a bit about it, it appears to a good preventive for many things. Black seed oil comes from the Nigella sativa (N. sativa) plant. As a amateur with this sort of thing tell me if I'm barking up the wrong tree. If you are asking my opinion of Black Seed Oil, I have never heard of it. Ivermectin and HCQ have been around for decades. Both have been used in humans with a lot of success. Both are for parasites, and anti-inflammatory as a secondary use. The ant-inflammatory qualities are part of the function in ridding patients of parasites. The anti-inflammatory properties are effective in many ailments. Off label or not. To the question, I don't know, but do know a lot of the "folk" remedies have a lot of merit. Do your research and get back with us. I have a friend and swear the cure for cancer died with his grandmother. Saw her put a nasty looking, and not so good smelling, salve she made on skin cancers. She would apply daily for 3-4 days and in a week or so the tumor would be dried and shrunken. She would pull them out and they would look like some sort of octopus looking thing, or root system. It never returned that either of us are aware of. She was a fun lady. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G21H30 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Wife and I have been taking it for about the last 6-8 months along with following the FL Dr's Protocol Here are a couple of links for information. https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf https://www.thethinkingconservative.com/black-seed-oil-evaluated-for-covid-19/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO Fugga Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I wouldn't mind getting the hookup. Woke up with CHYNA virus this morning. I say nuke the sorry bastards. Second time around. All but my son have had it in 2 months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, G21H30 said: Wife and I have been taking it for about the last 6-8 months along with following the FL Dr's Protocol Here are a couple of links for information. https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf https://www.thethinkingconservative.com/black-seed-oil-evaluated-for-covid-19/ Thanks, already had seen the 2nd link and read it a couple time plus a few other sites. Been taking Black Oil for a few days since it can seem to do no harm. Early on got a good supply Ivermectin and HCQ since it takes time to obtain. Saving it in case someone in family come down. Adult family member came down a while back and gave them a packet of Ivermectin, in a few days they were back on their feet, the 2nd day they were feeling remarkably better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share Posted January 20, 2022 https://basedunderground.com/2022/01/19/ivermectin-62-effective-in-preventing-covid-mortality-86-effective-in-preventing-infection-uk-doctor-says/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 23 hours ago, pipedreams said: Just watch as it gets closer to the 2022 elections, the virus will magically disappear or rarely be reported about. They'll be not only be reporting it, but screaming it from the mountaintops non-stop, or come up with a whole new crisis (Damn Trump!!!...). Anything to keep Brandon and his dismal failures on the back page. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Ivermectin and HQC don't work at all, and are VERY dangerous, simply because Pres. Trump mentioned them. 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said: Ivermectin and HQC don't work at all, and are VERY dangerous, simply because Pres. Trump mentioned them. However they may be the reason Africa (except South Africa) seems to have been largely unaffected by COVID. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/19/2022 at 4:54 PM, DAKA said: As someone said FOLLOW THE SCIENCE NOT THE SCIENTISTS...BUT...SO MUCH CONFUSION WHAT really works? So much MONEY involved who knows? How many tens if not hundreds of billions of profits have Pfizer and the others made from the jabs? How many millions have been handed out above and below the table to officers and enablers? And no, they are NOT vaccines no matter how many use that word about them. They are still experimental and those who get jabbed are still test subjects. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 2:33 PM, pipedreams said: https://basedunderground.com/2022/01/19/ivermectin-62-effective-in-preventing-covid-mortality-86-effective-in-preventing-infection-uk-doctor-says/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated Welcome to the Fam-a-lee. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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