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56 minutes ago, railfancwb said:

How many small businesses have been killed by the COVID shutdowns plus riots and torching and lootings - AKA peaceful protests?

Obama and his Democrats took over control of health care his first two years - one of the eight planks Alinsky supposedly said was necessary for a Socialist takeover.

https://reflectionsonitaly.blog/2016/11/01/saul-alinskys-eight-steps-to-socialism/

I agree with you. The state of our country is diminished and we're going in the wrong direction.

I'm just saying we're far from being totally defeated. This isn't the time to panic or give up. (Not that you're doing that.) The same recipes for success are mostly still applicable now.

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5 hours ago, Ramjet38 said:

Again, a lack of Republican turn out assured the countries destruction.  Hope those that sat home are happy and don't complain when socialism comes a knocking at their door.

They all got busy on the internet belly aching about some suit Wayne La Pierre wore and forgot all about voting.

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5 hours ago, Historian said:

A few observations: 

They will still need 2/3rds of the House to pass any bill to the senate.

They do not have a 2/3rds majority.  They have an eight vote majority.  They will have to force it with a simple majority vote.

Depending on what they do that will be a major problem for them in two years.

Nancy can't last another two years. 

They have lit a fire under us.   We are motivated.

You can bet the house returns to the Republicans in 2 years.

We need to learn to play THEIR game and get out there and win.

 

I'm not sure how many have had a 'fire lit' under them. Seems like a lot of people are asleep at the wheel.

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35 minutes ago, Brad said:

This isn't the time to panic..

I have heard that part for a looong time, and look where we are. The country has moved to the left ever since, because we always compromised with every repeated call for change. Gun control is the best example. After every compromise they asked for more. Eventually you will end up empty handed, and the state can do whatever it wants to.

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39 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said:

I'm not sure how many have had a 'fire lit' under them. Seems like a lot of people are asleep at the wheel.

Well.   Take a look around at how many Trump flags and signs are still out.

There's a new breed of conservative around.   I think you'll see them make waves in the future.

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2 hours ago, Fnfalman said:

If the Frenchies can storm the Bastille then Americans can storm the Capitol. 

I think we can do better than the Frenchies and their razor.  Our constitution is an amazing improvement over their bloodbath.

59 minutes ago, Historian said:

This is why an education by virtue of TV and People Magazine will destroy us.

Those afternoon t.v. talk shows are a sickening potion of pure angst and propaganda. 

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An old friends wife who was 100% in support of the BLM protests and the Defund the Police movement earlier this year is now going off about this is why we can’t allow protests of any kind and she wants the Army to come on and kill all the protesters on Capital Hill. 
 

There is a peaceful protest right now at the Utah State Capital and people want everyone arrested but this was OK this summer. 
 

 

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I hope some of you will join me in these pledges:

I promise that I will never vote for or support any politician who attends Joe Biden's inauguration.
 
I promise that I will never vote for or support any Senator who votes to confirm (or for cloture on) any nominee Biden sets forth.
 
I promise I will never vote for or support any candidate who does not repudiate the corrupt results of this presidential election.
 
Last, I promise I will never again say the words "Mitt Romney" nor will I write them. Henceforth I will only refer to him as 'Pierre Delecto'.
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51 minutes ago, Batesmotel said:

An old friends wife who was 100% in support of the BLM protests and the Defund the Police movement earlier this year is now going off about this is why we can’t allow protests of any kind and she wants the Army to come on and kill all the protesters on Capital Hill. 
 

She should read a history book about such matters as the holocaust...and ask herself if she sees herself standing up for mass murder.

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4 hours ago, crockett said:

I have heard that part for a looong time, and look where we are. The country has moved to the left ever since, because we always compromised with every repeated call for change. Gun control is the best example. After every compromise they asked for more. Eventually you will end up empty handed, and the state can do whatever it wants to.

Are you my fcuking brother form another mother?

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10 minutes ago, Swampfox762 said:

Never happen.  The Stupid is too strong.  Ya just saw it man.

The left would love another party. It would further split the Republican Party. We need to come together and repair the right. Not split it on grounds of principal. Politics is not pretty. 

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5 minutes ago, Batesmotel said:

The left would love another party. It would further split the Republican Party. We need to come together and repair the right. Not split it on grounds of principal. Politics is not pretty. 

That's one of the issues we face.  Despite their various elements the Democrats are not nearly as fractured.

We, however, have variations of third party organizations.  Furthermore, principled people who might sit out elections because the system is screwed up.

Democrats will vote, vote twice, get other people who are dead to vote, etc.

We tend to play by the rules. 

This is why Ross Perot cost us an election.

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3 minutes ago, Batesmotel said:

The left would love it. It would further split the Republican Party. We need to come together and repair the right. Not split it on grounds of principal. Politics is not pretty. 

The republican party can't be fixed.  They  were always trying to be the "nice guys" trying to work with the democraps, while the democraps have been cheating and lying with the media for over 20 years.  The republican party are a bunch of a$$holes, that have just destroyed the Republic.  We were cheated out of this election.  Now they OWN america..."Small a".  I turned my flag upside down tonight, and urge every American to do the same.  Come ask me why my flag is like that...I ****** dare ya..

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1 minute ago, Swampfox762 said:

The republican party can't be fixed.  They  were always trying to be the "nice guys" trying to work with the democraps, while the democraps have been cheating and lying with the media for over 20 years.  The republican party are a bunch of a$$holes, that have just destroyed the Republic.  We were cheated out of this election.  Now they OWN america..."Small a".  I turned my flag upside down tonight, and urge every American to do the same.  Come ask me why my flag is like that...I ****** dare ya..

What....this....guy....said.....

We have been sold out but the Mitts of the world and others.  

We need new, young, no apologies, ain't going to work with you Republicans to take over the party.

Now, in regards to the media.   That industry works on razor thin margins.   Want to kill it?  Cut your cable.   Cut off your newspaper (as if anyone still gets one).   Starve this beast.

I am a recovering newspaper journalist.  The industry is DEAD.

The last real journalist turned off the lights and entered rehab.

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I've been re-reading The rise and fall of the third Reich recently.  It's quiet an interesting read.

Here's a quote from Georing.

“Oh, that is all well and good, [replied Goering] but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

Sound familiar?  It's what the press has done for four years.  It's what the Democrats have done for four years.  It's what they will start doing tomorrow.

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36 minutes ago, Historian said:

We need new, young, no apologies, ain't going to work with you Republicans to take over the party.

Yeah...THAT has been destroyed by  the democrap liberal ****** teachers unions teachin all the "get along", I "associate" with being a female..said the boy BS.. for over 30 years!!!:newburn:

AND the liberal scum bag colleges?  Good ****** luck.  The Democratic  Republic was Lost today.   Sold out by Vice president...whats his face rino... 

Come on History  You Get it!! Hope is a wonderful thing.  "Want in one hand and siht in the other"...see which comes true first.

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48 minutes ago, Historian said:

That's one of the issues we face.  Despite their various elements the Democrats are not nearly as fractured.

We, however, have variations of third party organizations.  Furthermore, principled people who might sit out elections because the system is screwed up.

Democrats will vote, vote twice, get other people who are dead to vote, etc.

We tend to play by the rules. 

This is why Ross Perot cost us an election.

Perot was not the first.

Teddy Roosevelt wanted the Republican nomination Taft got. In a huff then, Teddy started a third party known frequently as “The Bull Moose Party”.

This split gave the nation Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat racist who resegregated the federal government, got the nation into WWI after running for re-election as the “He Kept Us Out of the War” candidate, got us the Federal Reserve Bank (which is not Federal and not a reserve), and got the income tax amendment 16th?) in place. He sponsored the League of Nations which the USA did not join. The League was the predecessor of the United Nations.  

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6 minutes ago, railfancwb said:

This split gave the nation Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat racist who resegregated the federal government, got the nation into WWI after running for re-election as the “He Kept Us Out of the War” candidate, got us the Federal Reserve Bank (which is not Federal and not a reserve), and got the income tax amendment 16th?) in place. He sponsored the League of Nations which the USA did not join. The League was the predecessor of the United Nations.  

Don't forget funding the Bolsheviks with famine aid at the urging of George Herbert Walker* and other globalist scum. This at same time that our AEF troops were fighting the Reds. 

*Bush SR maternal grandfather. Treachery runs deep in that family.

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5 minutes ago, 26isbest said:

Don't forget funding the Bolsheviks with famine aid at the urging of George Herbert Walker* and other globalist scum. This at same time that our AEF troops were fighting the Reds. 

*Bush SR maternal grandfather. Treachery runs deep in that family.

Maternal or paternal? Thought there was a Prescott in the lineage somewhere. 

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1 hour ago, Historian said:

That's one of the issues we face.  Despite their various elements the Democrats are not nearly as fractured.

We, however, have variations of third party organizations.  Furthermore, principled people who might sit out elections because the system is screwed up.

Democrats will vote, vote twice, get other people who are dead to vote, etc.

We tend to play by the rules. 

This is why Ross Perot cost us an election.

This is indeed a war between:

- Makers (tax payers) and Takers.

- Law abiding people and criminals.

- Believers and haters.

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