railfancwb Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The President is currently limited to two terms. That might be considered as one elected term plus 50%+ of the term in which succession came to be. What about in one term out one term then in one term again? We have actually had that happen once. Would the limit then be two terms period or two successive terms? Is there a limit for the Vice President? Can that individual serve two terms as VP then be elected to two terms as P? There are term limits for some governors and mayors. And possibly even term limits for some state or local legislatures. Suppose the voters could amend the amendment now limiting the President.... How many two year terms for Representative should be allowed? Would that be consecutive or in total? How many six year terms in the Senate? Once again would that be consecutive or total? If a Representative maxes out should that person be eligible to seek a Senate or the Presidency and max out there? Should a maxed out Senator be eligible to become President? If never a Representative, should a maxed out Senator or President be eligible to become one? Should term limits have an overall cap? Regardless of which offices, limit a person to X total years in Federal elected office? If a person maxes out as a Representative from one state should that person be able to move to another state and seek to be a Representative from it?*****Saying term limits would be good, but there would be devils in the details. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I don’t like term limits. If you have someone you like, you should support them I am for a mandatory retirement age. Watch C-Span and you’ll see a dozen walkers, canes, etc including SCOTUS . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann6 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The Twenty-Second Amendment says a person can only be elected to be president two times for a total of eight years. It does make it possible for a person to serve up to ten years as president. VP, no limit nor any other position federally. Some states have term limits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Every one in Congress should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 well i know one thing in my little town our town commissioners should be limited to 30 days . they are biggest **** ups around here . nobody is happy with them except the ones they cater to with a little side money under the table . raised our taxes every year , we are still one of the smallest counties and only 1 of a few that have nazi car inspections for revenue , and they revitalized downtown and spent i dunno how much for new park and nobody goes there , or downtown , i mean nobody . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, willie-pete said: Every one in Congress should serve two terms. One in office and one in prison. That's an offer I could support! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWARREN123 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Two terms at each level and then one in prison! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadbart Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I could get behind a two-term limit for each federal office. 2 as a Rep, 2 as a Sen, 2 as President. Throw in a couple years at an appointed Secretary post, and you'd have a well-rounded representative of the People. That gives a person time to gain experience, but not time to get dug in like a tick. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentpoet Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The problem with term limits is that more power would gravitate towards unelected career positions in the federal government. I don't know what the solution is for that problem. But when you solve one problem you also create others. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Silentpoet said: The problem with term limits is that more power would gravitate towards unelected career positions in the federal government. I don't know what the solution is for that problem. But when you solve one problem you also create others. Good point, bureaucrats are forever . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoF250 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I am not nearly as concerned about term limits as I am lobbying. I think lobbying should be banned and current lobbyists put against a wall. I like the idea of an age limit. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPTim Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 23 hours ago, Dric902 said: I don’t like term limits. If you have someone you like, you should support them I am for a mandatory retirement age. Watch C-Span and you’ll see a dozen walkers, canes, etc including SCOTUS Yup, it’s worked so well for us. That was sarcasm BTW. When common sense was common, the system kind of worked. Who are we kidding, relying on the populous to vote out the dead wood has never worked. 3 terms for congress, 1 term for senate, and no lifetime benefits for any of it. . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPTim Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Silentpoet said: The problem with term limits is that more power would gravitate towards unelected career positions in the federal government. I don't know what the solution is for that problem. But when you solve one problem you also create others. That is already the case. Where did the 6 years for senators come from? What is the logic behind it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann6 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, NPTim said: That is already the case. Where did the 6 years for senators come from? What is the logic behind it? It's based on the house of lords and the house of commons in the Brit parliament. The house of reps is the will of the people, and the senate is the more stable part of the legislature. Before the 17th amendment in 1913 the state governments sent senators to Washington. They were not elected by the people. It's all in the constitution and amendments. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann6 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2018/10/19/want_to_fix_the_senate_repeal_the_17th_amendment_110870.html interesting article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 One of the problems is that the people who can write and pass term limits/retirement age are the ones affected by it. They would have to do it to themselves if Frank and Jesse have the combination to the bank vault, they will rob the bank if Frank and Jesse write the banking laws...we will pay them to rob it all the time . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 how about just a simple Constitutional knowledge test. and an understand of Oath Of Office they take. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Dood Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 They (politicians ) can get elected and hold the office as many times as they want imo. Im very ambivalent about term limits. What I do want is "None of the Above " to be a requirement on EVERY ballot for federal office's. This should be accompanied by law saying that if voters choose "None of the Above ", neither candidate can run for the seat for 2 election cycles, nor any other federal seat for the same limits. I'm waaay more tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 The same as the President. We might actually not get political hacks there to pad their own wallets through corruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 11 hours ago, holyjohnson said: how about just a simple Constitutional knowledge test. and an understand of Oath Of Office they take. Liars lie. We have an new population using that to stay here. I would be happy to see some required advanced training and an education level, specific to governing, morals, ethics. I see no trace of any in our present politicians. More than a few people in Congress don't even seem to understand our form of government. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, janice6 said: Liars lie. We have an new population using that to stay here. I would be happy to see some required advanced training and an education level, specific to governing, morals, ethics. I see no trace of any in our present politicians. More than a few people in Congress don't even seem to understand our form of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmohme Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I think that instead of term limits, we should look at the private sector and use one of the standard practices in dealing with employees. A 90 day performance review and subsequent anual reviews. If performance is not up to expectations, employment can be terminated on the spot. There would certainly be a need for a boat load of special elections! I know, it will never happen, but I can dream. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 The problem with term limits is that more power would gravitate towards unelected career positions in the federal government. I don't know what the solution is for that problem. But when you solve one problem you also create others.Bring back the spoils system. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 That is already the case. Where did the 6 years for senators come from? What is the logic behind it?The six years for Senators was built into the Constitution I believe. However the Constitution also had Senators appointed by state legislatures and not elected by popular vote. Repeal the 17th! Still don’t understand how enough state legislatures were convinced to neuter themselves to pass the 17th. If Alexander had not definitely decided to retire I doubt that that statement would have been made in a quotable situation. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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