SC Tiger Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Celebrities caught cheating the system in order to get their kids into college. Among the accused are Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlan. Apparently the service would either get a college coach to have the student admitted as an athlete (though they never played anything) or pay off an SAT/ACT administrator or something. https://www.foxnews.com/us/college-entrance-exam-cheating I'm gonna let the facts come out on this one and give Ms. Loughlin the benefit of the doubt. Just a feeling I've got. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Getting in is just half the battle. Graduating is an entirely different thing. That is if you really earn it yourself. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPTim Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Historian said: Getting in is just half the battle. Graduating is an entirely different thing. That is if you really earn it yourself. As long as you spout mao, marx, lenin, ho chi minh, castro, and alinsky, they will pass with highest honors. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pisco Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Wonder if prison will be a Full House? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentpoet Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Silentpoet said: Is that in 1 Hesitations? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Historian said: Getting in is just half the battle. Graduating is an entirely different thing. That is if you really earn it yourself. Graduating in SOMETHING is easy. Graduating in something USEFUL is a different story. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, SC Tiger said: Graduating in SOMETHING is easy. Graduating in something USEFUL is a different story. Absolutely. I can't believe the number of people heading into college without any idea of what they want to do! I told each of my kids that they have to start thinking of what they love to do, what they like to do, and what they want to do, for the rest of their life, as soon as they were leaving grade school. My son had an objective the had requirements. When he told his High School advisor what class he needed, he was told that it wasn't necessary. I provided the advisor with the college requirements that specifically listed this class. You have to be in control of you own life. If you aren't, someone else is! This is nothing to be take lightly. It is the difference between getting up in the morning because you have a purpose, or trying to find all the excuses you can, to stay home because what you do is more punishing than rewarding. I worked with PhD's that hated what they did. We would have long talks and they weren't shy about their feelings of how horrible it was to do what they were trained to do. I asked them why they made their choice then, and I was astounded at the answers. Some said that they went to college to remain with their friends. That they took the same courses that their friends did. One person said that after he had been in higher education for a long time with his friends, he was told that he was to graduate with a PhD in Electrical Engineering. He said he hated it, and simply didn't give the future much thought while having fun all those years with his friends. I couldn't believe that someone would take this decision so lightly. He agonized over what he did since he disliked it so much. To make matters worse, we worked for on of the largest military contractors in the nation. When my company hired an Electrical Engineer he did the function of a Mathematician, when we hired a Physicist he did solid state circuit design, When we hired a Mathematician he designed software, and so on. He said he never looked into this before hand and had no idea of what was ahead of him. He reflected the same casual attitude of many of our degreed professionals. Many simply wound up where they were by default. this makes what you do a four letter word (work) instead of a rewarding career. I couldn't live like this. I know what I wanted to be, and what I wanted to do, since the 3rd grade. I thought a lot about what I liked and what I would do to get it. I worked my ass off relentlessly, and achieved my goal. I loved everyday I went to work and tried to convey this objective to my children. At my retirement, I told my management that I had kept a secret from them all these years. That if they didn't pay me, I would have paid them to do what I did. My children claim to be living a good satisfying life with the enjoyment of knowing that what they do is what they like and want to do. Everybody should consider this. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoF250 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I wonder what else Lori was doing for special favors? Great parental lesson - be a useless piece of **** and my money will fix it for you. Ah well, they are actors so they know dick about earning anything. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Pisco said: Wonder if prison will be a Full House? From Full House to the big house. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, SC Tiger said: Graduating in SOMETHING is easy. Graduating in something USEFUL is a different story. Of my four undergraduate degrees: Ahhh well. I guess i didn't want to graduate. I did get a job. I also tried to major in redheads at one point. Edited March 12, 2019 by Historian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Quote A lot of these young people are in line to get "old money" that they didn't have to make for themselves. they will join the entitled group of individuals their parent know and they will be ushered into the upper class providing with information to ensure their potential financial success. Some will make it on their own, but many will not, and simply spend the money till it's gone. Having been to a particular school in itself doesn't ensure success, it increases your chances due to the "old boy network", but many still fail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 6 hours ago, SC Tiger said: Is that in 1 Hesitations? It's where they stabbed Negan in the neck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 almost like they go through their whole lives pretending to be someone else huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadbart Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, janice6 said: I couldn't live like this. I know what I wanted to be, and what I wanted to do, since the 3rd grade. I thought a lot about what I liked and what I would do to get it. I worked my ass off relentlessly, and achieved my goal. I loved everyday I went to work and tried to convey this objective to my children. At my retirement, I told my management that I had kept a secret from them all these years. That if they didn't pay me, I would have paid them to do what I did. My children claim to be living a good satisfying life with the enjoyment of knowing that what they do is what they like and want to do. Everybody should consider this. WHAT THE F#(% DID YOU DO???? No secrets here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 9 hours ago, SC Tiger said: Celebrities caught cheating the system in order to get their kids into college. Among the accused are Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlan. Apparently the service would either get a college coach to have the student admitted as an athlete (though they never played anything) or pay off an SAT/ACT administrator or something. https://www.foxnews.com/us/college-entrance-exam-cheating I'm gonna let the facts come out on this one and give Ms. Loughlin the benefit of the doubt. Just a feeling I've got. She looks kind of cross-eyed and she's got skinny legs. --I'm not cutting her any slack at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, tadbart said: WHAT THE F#(% DID YOU DO???? No secrets here. Page seperator in a second hand Lithuanian porn shop. Just kidding. I know I'm going to regret his answer based on this post. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadbart Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Historian said: Page seperator in a second hand Lithuanian porn shop. Just kidding. I know I'm going to regret his answer based on this post. Funny, because today is the internet's 30th birthday. I thanked if for porn and YouTube, and cussed it for anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers, turnitin.com, and videos of cats. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, tadbart said: WHAT THE F#(% DID YOU DO???? No secrets here. I was an Electrical Engineer in Physics Research. I also got to participate in writing some Military Standards for the Store Stations on the Advanced Tactical Fighter (F-22). I was on the F-23 fiber optic systems buss proposal and development, I gave my company's presentation to the Combined military services for the F-23. My job was to create advanced tactical systems for the Joint Strike Fighter also. Later I worked the F-22 program. I had the opportunity for almost 40 years, to develop new concept military components and systems. I traveled all over the country looking at new business opportunities for my company, and to work with other military contractor companies. I loved knowing things that few others did and having the chance to go free reign on new concepts. I got to work pretty much by myself. I didn't change the world, but I had fun trying. 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Now look. I don't mean to sound like I was anything special because I wasn't. I just loved coming up with new things and the doing proof of concept. Problem solving to me is the best thing in the world to do. I wasn't always successful but they listened to me and that's all I could ask for. Many people did what I did and had the opportunities I did. I just really enjoyed it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M&P15T Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 This was the topic of the morning chat radio show this morning. I'm wondering what actual laws were broken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, M&P15T said: This was the topic of the morning chat radio show this morning. I'm wondering what actual laws were broken. I believe in some cases they hid the fees as a charitable donation and therefore a tax deduction, and also forged/messed with SAT scores. The tax thing would probably be tax fraud. I'm sure messing with the SAT scores falls under some sort of fraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, SC Tiger said: I believe in some cases they hid the fees as a charitable donation and therefore a tax deduction, and also forged/messed with SAT scores. The tax thing would probably be tax fraud. I'm sure messing with the SAT scores falls under some sort of fraud. You nailed part of it. There are likely tax issues. But basically, it's a fraud case. Mail fraud to be exact. A lot of this was done via the mail system. Depending on the number of people involved you could say it was a conspiracy and that increases the charges. Might even get money laundering out of it. Might even get deeper depending on how federal money is involved. It's an odd case, for sure. One for accountants and lawyers with guns. That should scare everyone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 This is most famous other person involved - Felicity Huffman: Personally I think she's guilty as hell. Throw the book at her. (FTR her husband - William H. Macy - has not been charged AFAIK) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, SC Tiger said: This is most famous other person involved - Felicity Huffman: Personally I think she's guilty as hell. Throw the book at her. (FTR her husband - William H. Macy - has not been charged AFAIK) I would be surprised that she would spend that kind of money and he wouldn't know anything about it. If he asked where the money went, him too. It's interesting that she didn't have any faith in her child's abilities. People often respond to your confidence in them. They frequently respond to your lack of confidence in them too. Edited March 13, 2019 by janice6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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