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22 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

U.S. President Donald Trump’s executive orders have generated controversy — in particular his attempted travel ban, which has been partly suspended by the courts. But would he go so far as to try to stop his own impeachment through an executive order? That’s what the web site News Worthy appeared to report on 29 May 2017:

 

 

White House staffers leaked details of a conversation between President Trump and his legal team early Monday morning. Apparently outraged by mountains of bad press and talks of impeachment, the President is trying to find a way to use the powers of Executive Order to put a stop to it altogether.

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Trump stated, “I want to draft an Executive Order which will just take away their ability to impeach me. So, I need you to help me word this the right way.” With the entire room flabbergasted, he went on to explain, “That way they will have no choice but to just get this stupid idea out of their heads, right

 

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Wow dude - seriously?  the site "News Worthy" APPEARED TO REPORT this, more than 2-1/2 YEARS ago?  :shakehead:

Yeah, we get it - ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!!!!!!  ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!!!!!  Your TDS is showing.  Again.

-Pat

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1 hour ago, Cubdriver said:

Wow dude - seriously?  the site "News Worthy" APPEARED TO REPORT this, more than 2-1/2 YEARS ago?  :shakehead:

Yeah, we get it - ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!!!!!!  ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!!!!!!  Your TDS is showing.  Again.

-Pat

It’s a parody site.

were you under the impression that everything in this thread was real?

quotes, memes,

you don’t think those are true, do you

 

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46 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

It’s a parody site.

were you under the impression that everything in this thread was real?

quotes, memes,

you don’t think those are true, do you

 

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Wasn't aware it was a parody site, you provided no link and it's the kind of negative thing you'd post about Trump.

-Pat

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I’m not addressing any of this to any particular person, so take the emotion out for a minute
 

from a political science/sociology point of view, the last few years are fascinating. Did you know the majority of the country never knew FDR was in a wheelchair?
we can blame 24/7 news, instant coverage of anything with applicable commentary on both sides. Internet or Hollywood doesn’t matter.

Since 9/11 the change has been growing exponentially.
The phrase “all politics is local” no longer applies. Local politics is nothing, ask anybody on the street to name their Mayor, and if it isn’t New York or Chicago, they have no clue. Governor? State Rep? What is the last bill your Governor signed? Did you support it or oppose it? What was on the last ballot measure?.....no idea. A surprising percentage of people know Pelosi on sight but have no clue who their Rep is. This is how we got Omar  people voted “against Trump” and didn’t even look down ticket. There are people in Minnesota that don’t know that she represents them.

but they know Trump and can quote, chapter and verse, the latest talking points and responses. True or not.

we had a Presidential candidate who had such a blind following that whatever they said or did didn’t matter or was flat out denied as a lie from the other side. He was a black sheet of paper to be filled out with whatever you wanted him to say, wanted him to be, wanted him to stand for.

regardless of history or past positions, the followers chanted campaign slogans and followed with their painted canvas held up in front of the actual candidate. And attacked without hesitation any and all criticism of their selected leader, no matter how slight or unimportant the deviation from the party line. It was immediately attacked with “shut up” accusations meant to stop all conversation to the contrary. 
 

Im not talking about Trump, that’s how we got Obama.

but the equal and opposite reaction has happened. There are some, not any here of course, that look at Trumps face on Rocky’s body and get literally anger of someone says it’s ‘doctored’. They will look at an AOC meme saying something stupid about Relations with Turkey and Thanksgiving turkeys and smile, maybe chuckle.....and some believe she really said that. These are the people who would pre order Melania bath water of it was marketed.

We have entered Entertainment Politics where the ‘other side is the epitome of evil’ and no matter what we have to say or do to defeat them is justified. The ends justify any means necessary. That was the perview of the left after LBJ, if you asked a conservative in the 50s what they wanted from the government they would have most likely said “to be left alone” 

today we have an Avengers movie in DC. Very little of it is true or real, it is all spun and triangulated for the maximum effect on poll numbers, fundraising, and the ever present need to be “trending”

The entire impeachment is hopeless, there is no conceivable way the Senate will convict absolutely none. No election will be ‘overturned’ no vote will be ‘erased’ none

but....how many Reps have you seen on national news that you have never heard of? How much fundraising has been accomplished?

 

 


 

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2 hours ago, Cubdriver said:

Wasn't aware it was a parody site, you provided no link and it's the kind of negative thing you'd post about Trump.

-Pat

But it made you angry and elicited a knee jerk reaction.

the ‘Visceral Response’ is what political advisors and consultants rely on. A thinking person with a decent memory is the bane of politicians

Definition of visceral

     1: felt in or as if in the internal organs of the body : DEEPa visceral conviction

     2: not intellectual : INSTINCTIVE, UNREASONINGvisceral drives

3: dealing with crude or elemental emotions 
 
 
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Elizabeth Warren Declares She Is Last Person Of Color Remaining In Democratic Race

"It saddens me that all the other candidates of color have dropped out," Warren said. "Luckily, I am still in the race, and a vote for me is a vote for .09% ethnic diversity in the White House. Maybe. The results were inconclusive, so it could be less than that. No guarantees."

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/elizabeth-warren-most-diverse-candidate-remaining

 

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17 minutes ago, janice6 said:

Consider just how "fair" this nation is.  We even let the Ghetto run it for a while.  Look what happened.

The country wasn’t destroyed, we didn’t become socialist, we didn’t become Muslim.

we didn’t even lose any guns

 

Old Lady America is pretty resilient
 

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"Then there are questions about what appear to be some fairly substantial government payments to Halper throughout 2016. Halper continues to be listed as a “vendor” by websites that track payments by the federal government to private contractors."

https://theintercept.com/2018/05/19/the-fbi-informant-who-monitored-the-trump-campaign-stefan-halper-oversaw-a-cia-spying-operation-in-the-1980-presidential-election/

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2 hours ago, Dric902 said:

I’m not addressing any of this to any particular person, so take the emotion out for a minute
 

from a political science/sociology point of view, the last few years are fascinating. Did you know the majority of the country never knew FDR was in a wheelchair?
we can blame 24/7 news, instant coverage of anything with applicable commentary on both sides. Internet or Hollywood doesn’t matter.

Since 9/11 the change has been growing exponentially.
The phrase “all politics is local” no longer applies. Local politics is nothing, ask anybody on the street to name their Mayor, and if it isn’t New York or Chicago, they have no clue. Governor? State Rep? What is the last bill your Governor signed? Did you support it or oppose it? What was on the last ballot measure?.....no idea. A surprising percentage of people know Pelosi on sight but have no clue who their Rep is. This is how we got Omar  people voted “against Trump” and didn’t even look down ticket. There are people in Minnesota that don’t know that she represents them.

but they know Trump and can quote, chapter and verse, the latest talking points and responses. True or not.

we had a Presidential candidate who had such a blind following that whatever they said or did didn’t matter or was flat out denied as a lie from the other side. He was a black sheet of paper to be filled out with whatever you wanted him to say, wanted him to be, wanted him to stand for.

regardless of history or past positions, the followers chanted campaign slogans and followed with their painted canvas held up in front of the actual candidate. And attacked without hesitation any and all criticism of their selected leader, no matter how slight or unimportant the deviation from the party line. It was immediately attacked with “shut up” accusations meant to stop all conversation to the contrary. 
 

Im not talking about Trump, that’s how we got Obama.

but the equal and opposite reaction has happened. There are some, not any here of course, that look at Trumps face on Rocky’s body and get literally anger of someone says it’s ‘doctored’. They will look at an AOC meme saying something stupid about Relations with Turkey and Thanksgiving turkeys and smile, maybe chuckle.....and some believe she really said that. These are the people who would pre order Melania bath water of it was marketed.

We have entered Entertainment Politics where the ‘other side is the epitome of evil’ and no matter what we have to say or do to defeat them is justified. The ends justify any means necessary. That was the perview of the left after LBJ, if you asked a conservative in the 50s what they wanted from the government they would have most likely said “to be left alone” 

today we have an Avengers movie in DC. Very little of it is true or real, it is all spun and triangulated for the maximum effect on poll numbers, fundraising, and the ever present need to be “trending”

The entire impeachment is hopeless, there is no conceivable way the Senate will convict absolutely none. No election will be ‘overturned’ no vote will be ‘erased’ none

but....how many Reps have you seen on national news that you have never heard of? How much fundraising has been accomplished?

Bread and Circuses, Folks.

Bread and Circuses.

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