MO Fugga Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Assholes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 What a mess................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I watched the video and here is my take-away: It doesn't matter who you are, or what you've done or haven't done, but when you get pulled over by the police and they yell, STEP OUT OF THE VEHICLE!!! --the worst thing you can do is stay IN the vehicle and run off at the mouth with excuses as to why you aren't cooperating. I don't know why the one cop was so jacked up to begin with, but the best way to diffuse a situation like that is to be polite and comply and not act like you're on drugs and don't understand what's being said to you, or like you're some kind of crazy-ass sovereign citizen who doesn't think the police have the right to tell you what to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Guns out and screaming cops? I might drive off, and we could head to the station. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Once they had him put his hands out the window he was pretty much stuck. If the engine is running the doors are locked and with your seat belt on you are pretty much stuck without reaching back in. That could get you shot the way this mess was going. Think the fat bald cop needs to retire after this, just my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoF250 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 What were those **** heads pulling him over for? I could not watch much of it it was getting me so pissed off. What a couple of fat retards. I don't blame him for not getting out, I am not going to put myself further into the world of out of control retards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, RenoF250 said: What were those **** heads pulling him over for? I could not watch much of it it was getting me so pissed off. What a couple of fat retards. I don't blame him for not getting out, I am not going to put myself further into the world of out of control retards. He had a temporary paper plate in the back window and no plate on the bumper. I don't know why Rambo couldn't have mentioned that to the Lt. in the very first verbal contact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPTim Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 (edited) The officer said he was being detained for a traffic violation? They did a felony traffic stop for a traffic violation? While I agree, compliance should have been given by the LT, those officers seem super wound up, like a watch spring. The LT may have read the situation correctly, they were amped up and anything bad could have easily happened. The LT is going to be a rich man when this shakes out. Senior porn mustache officer porkins desperately needs a qualude. This was all because he didn’t immediately pull over? Did he attempt to flee, high speed? Edited April 13, 2021 by NPTim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dric902 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The cop is fired https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-officer-fired-months-soldiers-traffic-stop-77052751 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 14 hours ago, pipedreams said: Tubby is blading with that gun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockett Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 In general, the issue is, you don't know what the LEOs might think is going on. They may have gotten a homicide call just moments ago and your car, your race, your age, your clothing etc may match the suspect's definition. Maybe somebody called you in by mistake, or on purpose to get you into trouble. So in rare cases LEOs may have guns drawn and yell at you, even if you haven't done anything wrong. It's in your own interest to follow orders. One wrong move may look like reaching for a gun and trigger a self defense reaction. Those are split-second decisions to be made and a high risk on both ends. Those situations are not the time to bring your ego into play. If you really feel like being mistreated after everything played out, you can file a complaint later on. But if it was a honest mistake on the LEOs side, you may give them some slack, because that's what they do all the time as well when people cooperate. Give a little, take a little. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 There ARE bad cops out there. There ARE incompetent cops out there. There ARE raciest cops out there. However, as in the rest of life, it's useful to look at the totality of the situation and assume that in the vast majority of situations, if you're getting pulled over the odds will favor you if you assume the cops are decent guys trying to do the best they can, and act accordingly. True, there's a possibility that the cop is actually a raciest or a T-1000 liquid metal impersonator, and then you're screwed. But it's not the way to bet. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockett Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, gwalchmai said: There ARE bad cops out there. There ARE incompetent cops out there. There ARE raciest cops out there. However, as in the rest of life, it's useful to look at the totality of the situation and assume that in the vast majority of situations, if you're getting pulled over the odds will favor you if you assume the cops are decent guys trying to do the best they can, and act accordingly. True, there's a possibility that the cop is actually a raciest or a T-1000 liquid metal impersonator, and then you're screwed. But it's not the way to bet. No human is perfect, no matter the profession, but if you compare the average criminal, the average civilian and the average officer, the LEO is less likely to be a criminal. They don't get hired with any crimes on their record, not counting very minor issues in rare cases. So somehow they have managed to grow up and go through the academy without running into criminal issues. And those LEOs that may have developed issues while being on the line, compare to most other jobs, they see the worst garbage on a very regular basis and face much higher risk. I couldn't do it. I'd encounter the same criminal over the same **** a few times and I'd lose my ****. Let alone facing bullshit lies, false claims, having to chase down and handle infected individuals, search cars with hidden needles, etc. Any fool arguing or resisting would be tased, folded in half and kicked into the cage right away. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, crockett said: No human is perfect, no matter the profession, but if you compare the average criminal, the average civilian and the average officer, the LEO is less likely to be a criminal. They don't get hired with any crimes on their record, not counting very minor issues in rare cases. So somehow they have managed to grow up and go through the academy without running into criminal issues. And those LEOs that may have developed issues while being on the line, compare to most other jobs, they see the worst garbage on a very regular basis and face much higher risk. I couldn't do it. I'd encounter the same criminal over the same **** a few times and I'd lose my ****. Let alone facing bullshit lies, false claims, having to chase down and handle infected individuals, search cars with hidden needles, etc. Any fool arguing or resisting would be tased, folded in half and kicked into the cage right away. I'm gonna have to call BS here on them not getting hired with criminal records. I know several that have had some pretty serious issues in the past and still got hired on with County Sheriff Depts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockett Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Walt Longmire said: I'm gonna have to call BS here on them not getting hired with criminal records. I know several that have had some pretty serious issues in the past and still got hired on with County Sheriff Depts. Maybe things are different in your state, but I looked into it some 10 years ago and talked to the local PDs and some LEO friends. They all said that a couple moving violations are no issue, but those times you would get hired with just a simple marijuana possession years back, are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Walt Longmire said: Tubby is blading with that gun. Tubby needs a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPTim Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The rookie handled things much better than officer porn mustache porkins (looks like the uncle I never met.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Walt Longmire said: I'm gonna have to call BS here on them not getting hired with criminal records. I know several that have had some pretty serious issues in the past and still got hired on with County Sheriff Depts. With some departments having difficult time hiring officers, and the requirements for more women and minorities, I can see some relaxing of standards. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockett Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Minimum Requirements to be a Police Officer in Florida: Individuals must: be at least 19 years of age. be a citizen of the United States. have earned a high school diploma or equivalent (GED) for law enforcement and corrections applicants. A bachelors degree is required for correctional probation officers. not have been convicted of any felony or of a misdemeanor involving perjury or false statement. Any person who, after July 1, 1981, pleads guilty or nolo contendere to, or is found guilty of a felony, or of a misdemeanor involving perjury or a false statement, shall not be eligible for employment or appointment as an officer, not-withstanding suspension of sentence or withholding of adjudication. https://golawenforcement.com/police-officer-requirements/florida-police-officer-requirements/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Had a guy I went to school with that blew his younger brother in half with a 12 g shotgun when we were in Jr High. He became a deputy shortly after high school. Swore up and down he was going to eventually arrest all of us. Yeah, he didn't last long on the force. Rude awakening when he had to apply for work at the local cedar mills. He's probably still getting his ass kicked 50 years later. I knew a guy the assaulted his gf. Broke both her arms over his knee and pushed her down a flight of stairs. He nearly lost his life over this. But his uncle was the Sheriff and decided to help him 'turn his life around.' Made a deputy out of him. I had some interaction with him. He was a real dick, and thought he was tough when wearing the uniform. That might have worked with the general public, but the loggers in our little town weren't impressed. He stayed away from us. For good reason. Mostly to stay alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 You`d think a Lieutenant in the U.S. Army would know the importance of following simple orders... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, holyjohnson said: You`d think a Lieutenant in the U.S. Army would know the importance of following simple orders... He was scared spitless with Uncle Buck screaming and yelling and waving his Nine, Nine around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said: He was scared spitless with Uncle Buck screaming and yelling and waving his Nine, Nine around. i don't disagree, being afraid doesn't mean you don't have to comply before it escalates Officer Moustachio was Fired for using excessive force for being in fear by a Non Compliant Driver. Non Compliant Driver faces no Consequences for the escalation his Fear caused? both were afraid only one pays for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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