Politics VA AWB

[Cheygriz]

It appears that Virginia's beloved governor Northam was just handed his arse on the AWB!??

[Eric]

Any more information?

[tous]

Why do you want to know more about the governor's ass?

[M&P15T]

More info please?

Been sweatin' this for days.

[M&P15T]

Just read about it.

It was voted on this morning. 3 moderate Dems voted against it, and it's dead for now.

[Swampfox762]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/virginia-assault-weapons-ban-fails-in-legislature

[Jameson75]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/virginia-assault-weapons-ban-fails-in-legislature

Delegate Mark Levine's, the one who proposed the AWB bill, expression is utterly priceless in that clip.

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[Borg warner]

3 hours ago, Eric said:

Any more information?

This was the only mainstream news media that I could find that covered the story:

Virginia lawmakers reject assault weapon ban

 

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam's push to ban the sale of assault weapons has failed after members of his own party balked at the proposal

 

ALAN SUDERMAN Associated Press

 

February‎ ‎17‎, ‎2020‎ ‎7‎:‎20‎ ‎AM

 

RICHMOND, Va. -- Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam's push to ban the sale of assault weapons failed on Monday after some of his fellow Democrats balked at the proposal.

 

Senators voted to shelve the bill for the year and ask the state crime commission to study the issue, an outcome that drew cheers from a committee room packed with gun advocates.  Four moderate Democrats joined Republicans in Monday's committee vote, rejecting legislation that would have prohibited the sale of certain semiautomatic firearms, including popular AR-15 style rifles, and banned the possession of magazines that hold more than 12 rounds.

 

The bill was a top priority for Northam, who has campaigned heavily for a broad package of gun-control measures. The governor's spokeswoman, Alena Yarmosky, said he's disappointed with the result but determined to continue to press for the measure. “We will be back next year," she said.

David Majure, a gun-rights supporter who attended the committee hearing, said he's glad about Monday's results but not convinced the bill is dead for the year.

 

“I'm happy about it, but I don't trust them," he said.  Virginia is the current epicenter of the country's heated debate over guns, as a new Democratic majority seeks to enact strict new limits. Democrats ran heavily on gun control during last year's legislative elections when they flipped control of the General Assembly for the first time in more than two decades.

 

But gun owners, especially in rural communities, have pushed back hard. Last month, tens of thousands of guns-rights activists from around the country flooded the Capitol and surrounding area in protest, some donning tactical gear and carrying military rifles. And more than 100 counties, cities and towns have declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries, vowing to oppose any new “unconstitutional restrictions” on guns.

 

The proposed assault weapon ban has received the most opposition. Gun owners have accused the governor and others of wanting to confiscate commonly owned guns and accessories from law-abiding gun owners. Northam and his allies have said repeatedly they do not want to confiscate guns, but argued that banning new sales of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines would help prevent mass murders.

 

"This bill will save lives," said Democratic Del. Mark Levine, who sponsored the legislation.

 

Earlier proposals to ban possession of AR-15-style rifles or to require owners to register them with state police have been scrapped. The governor had hoped a watered-down version would win over enough Democratic moderates for passage. But moderate Democrats in the state Senate have said for weeks they are uncomfortable passing legislation that would affect so many current gun owners. An estimated 8 million AR-style guns have been sold since they were introduced to the public in the 1960s. The weapons are known as easy to use, easy to clean and easy to modify with a variety of scopes, stocks and rails.

 

Lawmakers voted to table the bill Monday with little debate, while noting that there was confusion over what types of guns would constitute an assault weapon.“There are obviously a lot of questions about definitions in this bill. Definitions do matter,” said Democratic Sen. Creigh Deeds.

 

The Senate has now rejected three of the governor's eight gun-control measures. Moderate Democrats have already voted with Republicans to kill a bill that would make it a felony to “recklessly leave a loaded, unsecured firearm” in a way that endangers a minor, and a bill that would require gun owners to report the loss or theft of a gun to police.

 

Lawmakers in both the House and Senate have already advanced several other gun-control measures and should finalize passage in the coming days. Those bills include limiting handgun purchases to once a month; universal background checks on gun purchases; allowing localities to ban guns in public buildings, parks and other areas; and a red flag bill that would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from anyone deemed to be dangerous to themselves or others.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/virginia-lawmakers-reject-assault-weapon-ban-69029795

 

[tous]

Y'all don't believe for a second that the hippie socialists are done with this, do you?

Promises will be made, deals will be struck, money will appear in paper sacks and vanish into campaign coffers and those affected will suddenly have an epiphany.

Politicians are the Energizer Bunny; the keep going and going and going.

Best wishes to the poor souls of Virginia.

[railfancwb]

3 hours ago, M&P15T said:

Just read about it.

It was voted on this morning. 3 moderate Dems voted against it, and it's dead for now.

...for now...

[railfancwb]

40 minutes ago, tous said:

Y'all don't believe for a second that the hippie socialists are done with this, do you?

Promises will be made, deals will be struck, money will appear in paper sacks and vanish into campaign coffers and those affected will suddenly have an epiphany.

Politicians are the Energizer Bunny; the keep going and going and going.

Best wishes to the poor souls of Virginia.

“...into campaign coffers.” Not into personal pockets?

[tous]

Coffer, pocket, same thing, isn't it?

[janice6]

2 hours ago, Borg warner said:

This was the only mainstream news media that I could find that covered the story:

Virginia lawmakers reject assault weapon ban

 

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam's push to ban the sale of assault weapons has failed after members of his own party balked at the proposal

 

ALAN SUDERMAN Associated Press

 

February‎ ‎17‎, ‎2020‎ ‎7‎:‎20‎ ‎AM

 

RICHMOND, Va. -- Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam's push to ban the sale of assault weapons failed on Monday after some of his fellow Democrats balked at the proposal.

 

Senators voted to shelve the bill for the year and ask the state crime commission to study the issue, an outcome that drew cheers from a committee room packed with gun advocates.  Four moderate Democrats joined Republicans in Monday's committee vote, rejecting legislation that would have prohibited the sale of certain semiautomatic firearms, including popular AR-15 style rifles, and banned the possession of magazines that hold more than 12 rounds.

 

The bill was a top priority for Northam, who has campaigned heavily for a broad package of gun-control measures. The governor's spokeswoman, Alena Yarmosky, said he's disappointed with the result but determined to continue to press for the measure. “We will be back next year," she said.

David Majure, a gun-rights supporter who attended the committee hearing, said he's glad about Monday's results but not convinced the bill is dead for the year.

 

“I'm happy about it, but I don't trust them," he said.  Virginia is the current epicenter of the country's heated debate over guns, as a new Democratic majority seeks to enact strict new limits. Democrats ran heavily on gun control during last year's legislative elections when they flipped control of the General Assembly for the first time in more than two decades.

 

But gun owners, especially in rural communities, have pushed back hard. Last month, tens of thousands of guns-rights activists from around the country flooded the Capitol and surrounding area in protest, some donning tactical gear and carrying military rifles. And more than 100 counties, cities and towns have declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries, vowing to oppose any new “unconstitutional restrictions” on guns.

 

The proposed assault weapon ban has received the most opposition. Gun owners have accused the governor and others of wanting to confiscate commonly owned guns and accessories from law-abiding gun owners. Northam and his allies have said repeatedly they do not want to confiscate guns, but argued that banning new sales of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines would help prevent mass murders.

 

"This bill will save lives," said Democratic Del. Mark Levine, who sponsored the legislation.

 

Earlier proposals to ban possession of AR-15-style rifles or to require owners to register them with state police have been scrapped. The governor had hoped a watered-down version would win over enough Democratic moderates for passage. But moderate Democrats in the state Senate have said for weeks they are uncomfortable passing legislation that would affect so many current gun owners. An estimated 8 million AR-style guns have been sold since they were introduced to the public in the 1960s. The weapons are known as easy to use, easy to clean and easy to modify with a variety of scopes, stocks and rails.

 

Lawmakers voted to table the bill Monday with little debate, while noting that there was confusion over what types of guns would constitute an assault weapon.“There are obviously a lot of questions about definitions in this bill. Definitions do matter,” said Democratic Sen. Creigh Deeds.

 

The Senate has now rejected three of the governor's eight gun-control measures. Moderate Democrats have already voted with Republicans to kill a bill that would make it a felony to “recklessly leave a loaded, unsecured firearm” in a way that endangers a minor, and a bill that would require gun owners to report the loss or theft of a gun to police.

 

Lawmakers in both the House and Senate have already advanced several other gun-control measures and should finalize passage in the coming days. Those bills include limiting handgun purchases to once a month; universal background checks on gun purchases; allowing localities to ban guns in public buildings, parks and other areas; and a red flag bill that would allow authorities to temporarily take guns away from anyone deemed to be dangerous to themselves or others.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/virginia-lawmakers-reject-assault-weapon-ban-69029795

 

Some freedoms are frightening to the government.  They feel threatened by them, as the original Constitutional authors intended them to be.

The government isn't intended to be served by the people, but it is intended to be a servant of the people.

[Historian]

Bloomberg put in loads of money into this cause. 

Hope he enjoys buying nothing.  And this will...be part of the national election.

And they will fail there too.

[Dric902]

Hard to take it to SCOTUS if it doesn’t pass

[holyjohnson]

This Bill isn’t dead as much as it is asleep, the Anti`s attempt to give 2 extra rounds in the ban showed they had no intention of compromise.

 

The Moderate Dems. Know this is a Re-Election killer and the Liberal Dems. Are moving that way too.

Too many 2A Sanctuary Counties and more everyday as well as the Patriots that stood up and Marched for the Rights Granted to them by God, not the State.

(that BTW is Declared in the Va. Constitution as well as the U.S. Constitution.)

Its shelved for a year at least but it will be back.

The “Red Flag” law passed and my understanding is it will be Challenged in court starting next year.

I`d be concerned the Liberal Dems. Take the guts out of this Bill and add it piece by piece into other Bills.

 

Governor Clanhood Blackface would be Okay with that too.

 

but for now WooHoo!

Edited February 18, 2020 by holyjohnson

[janice6]

4 hours ago, Historian said:

Bloomberg put in loads of money into this cause. 

Hope he enjoys buying nothing.  And this will...be part of the national election.

And they will fail there too.

The news tonight said he spent $390 Million so far.  Let's hope it's pissed down the drain.  Hillary tried to buy the Presidency too.

[Historian]

7 hours ago, janice6 said:

The news tonight said he spent $390 Million so far.  Let's hope it's pissed down the drain.  Hillary tried to buy the Presidency too.

He tried the same thing in Florida and was told to get lost. So far. They are relentless.

By the time this is over he will have spent billions.

[M&P15T]

15 hours ago, Historian said:

Bloomberg put in loads of money into this cause. 

Hope he enjoys buying nothing.  And this will...be part of the national election.

And they will fail there too.

Bloomberg's failing too. His Presidential run is just about finished.

He might be less likable than Hillary is.

Edited February 18, 2020 by M&P15T

[janice6]

3 hours ago, M&P15T said:

Bloomberg's failing too. His Presidential run is just about finished.

He might be less likable than Hillary is.

He saw Hillary's demise, then turned around and did the same thing she tried and failed at, attempting to buy the presidency...….

This follows the Democrats philosophy of doing the wrong thing and failing.  Then claiming they didn't spend enough money on it, or it wasn't implemented right  they wash and repeat the failure.  Time after time..

Edited February 18, 2020 by janice6

[M&P15T]

On 2/18/2020 at 12:22 PM, janice6 said:

He saw Hillary's demise, then turned around and did the same thing she tried and failed at, attempting to buy the presidency...….

This follows the Democrats philosophy of doing the wrong thing and failing.  Then claiming they didn't spend enough money on it, or it wasn't implemented right  they wash and repeat the failure.  Time after time..

The stuff he's said over the years, caught on video and re-surfacing........that dude is one arrogant elitist. He doesn't even understand how bad he sounds, how racist and elitist he sounds.

He's very, very out of touch.

It is funny that the very same people that bitch and complain and old, white wealthy men, are entertaining two of them as their democratic nominee.

[janice6]

5 hours ago, M&P15T said:

The stuff he's said over the years, caught on video and re-surfacing........that dude is one arrogant elitist. He doesn't even understand how bad he sounds, how racist and elitist he sounds.

He's very, very out of touch.

It is funny that the very same people that bitch and complain and old, white wealthy men, are entertaining two of them as their democratic nominee.

Yes.  It proves their hate is for conservatives, not liberals that meet their same criteria, and not actually for any other reason.  They prove time and time again that they are driven by emotion and not by reason.

Edited February 21, 2020 by janice6

[M&P15T]

On 2/21/2020 at 1:43 PM, janice6 said:

Yes.  It proves their hate is for conservatives, not liberals that meet their same criteria, and not actually for any other reason.  They prove time and time again that they are driven by emotion and not by reason.

Yeah, emotion over logic. Every time.

I've preached this for years.