Dric902 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 23 hours ago, tous said: The problem with fiber optic cabling is that you can sends bits down it, but not voltage and amps. So, signalling a servo to activate is nice, but without power it's just ballast. NB aircarver and I have designed the superluminal space plane to reply totally on Hayes 2400 baud modems and UTP. We had to save money somewhere, and you wouldn't believe how cheap them Hayes modems are. Firefox was voice activated if the helmet mind reader went out 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Canards! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Canardly…………. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, tous said: Canards! But it has the correct number of vertical stabilizers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 9 hours ago, tous said: Canards! Eet ees to laugh, Ha Ha! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillKilgore Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 13 hours ago, Dric902 said: But it has the correct number of vertical stabilizers But, does it have a hook? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dric902 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 hours ago, BillKilgore said: But, does it have a hook? It landed on a glasier so I don’t know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadbart Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 8/19/2018 at 6:49 PM, OV10 said: My anatomy and physiology professor used to fly these. Said they were like a sports car- with enough power to get you into or out of, whatever trouble you wanted. This old fella was a USAF flight instructor, a veterinarian, and a college professor. I could listen to him talk for HOURS. Best prof I ever had. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Ok tous.....f16 and the t38 single engine vs dual but still... same size envelope? they seem to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tous Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 The T-38 is four inches shorter and has seven inches less wingspan. The F-16 has about twice the loaded max weight and almost twice the max v at altitude. They really aren't comparable in role, bu they're both neater than heck. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, tadbart said: My anatomy and physiology professor used to fly these. Said they were like a sports car- with enough power to get you into or out of, whatever trouble you wanted. This old fella was a USAF flight instructor, a veterinarian, and a college professor. I could listen to him talk for HOURS. Best prof I ever had. Probably refueled the T-38 a million or so times in Texas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 38 minutes ago, tous said: The T-38 is four inches shorter and has seven inches less wingspan. The F-16 has about twice the loaded max weight and almost twice the max v at altitude. They really aren't comparable in role, bu they're both neater than heck. Yeah, it's a Ginger and Mary Ann pick. Just give me the ugly one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 53 minutes ago, tous said: The T-38 is four inches shorter and has seven inches less wingspan. The F-16 has about twice the loaded max weight and almost twice the max v at altitude. They really aren't comparable in role, bu they're both neater than heck. T-38 is just a trainer now, but wasn’t it a fighter design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dric902 said: T-38 is just a trainer now, but wasn’t it a fighter design? Yep, F-5 Freedom Fighter The trainer was first, IIRC. Edited September 9, 2018 by gwalchmai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dric902 said: T-38 is just a trainer now, but wasn’t it a fighter design? Little known fact. Germany had/has about 50 T-38's they they owned stationed at Sheppard AFB when I was stationed there. German pilots would come to Sheppard and train in the T-38's with USAF IP's. They were painted white like the US counterparts. They were a rowdy bunch in the O Club; got " stripper night " shut down for us - first and LAST night. Thank you very much. Edited September 9, 2018 by willie-pete 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Had one of these we used for forest fire fighting in Wa. state in 1970. It was fresh from Vietnam. We hung a water tank under it. One of the first helitack crews in the state. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Pedro, Kaman HH-43. Took a ride in one @ Sheppard AFB where they trained AF pilots in them.. Usually carried a fire bottle. and a couple of FF's in the back. Used the rotor wash to blow flames away from the aircraft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dric902 said: T-38 is just a trainer now, but wasn’t it a fighter design? It was indeed developed as a light-weight, barely supersonic fighter aircraft in the 1960s. The US Air Force wasn't interested. They already had as many highly-capable aircraft than they could count, mainly the A-7 Corsair and then the F-4 Phantom. But, the F-5 and future variants had one advantage. They were cheap to fly off and cheap to keep in the air, so they were appealing to countries with smaller defense budgets. Then, the Air Force discovered that cheap to buy, cheap to fly made for a great trainer. Edited September 9, 2018 by tous 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Anyone else remember seeing the Air Force Thunderbirds when they were flying F-100 Super Sabres and the Navy Blue Angels when they were flying Grumman F-9F Panthers and F-11 Tigers? Anyone else feeling really old. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, tous said: It was indeed developed as a light-weight, barely supersonic fighter aircraft in the 1960s. The US Air Force wasn't interested. They already had as many highly-capable aircraft than they could count, mainly the A-7 Corsair and then the F-4 Phantom. But, the F-5 and future variants had one advantage. They were cheap to fly off and cheap to keep in the air, so they were appealing to countries with smaller defense budgets. Then, the Air Force discovered that cheap to buy, cheap to fly made for a great trainer. Yep, cheap to write off also. I watched a few get written off as trainers. My office was right off the runway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie-pete Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, tous said: Anyone else remember seeing the Air Force Thunderbirds when they were flying F-100 Super Sabres and the Navy Blue Angels when they were flying Grumman F-9F Panthers and F-11 Tigers? Anyone else feeling really old. Not that old; I first saw them in T-38's after the oil embargo hit. Came to my base for a airshow; I had to get barrels of smoke oil in for them Edited September 9, 2018 by willie-pete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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