pipedreams Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 The uniquely styled Citroen Type SB SM is powered by a Maserati V6 and rides on a hydro-pneumatic suspension. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1970 Mercedes C111-2 Concept car. This was a fiberglass body and had Gullwing doors and a 4 rotor Wankel engine. It never went into production for two principle reasons. One, Mercedes didn't want to build a fiberglass car and the same car made out of steel would have been too heavy and aluminum would have dented too easily. The second reason was that the Wankel engine, while it produced a great deal of power for it's weight an displacement, was not fuel efficient and also had to burn a certain amount of oil to keep the chambers sealed. it was designed to burn oil. It also produced poor emissions. M-B has one of these cars in it's Museum but the Wankel engine is kept in storage and the car is fitted with a 70's MB V8 engine to allow it to be driven. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Posted June 5, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 hours ago, pipedreams said: The uniquely styled Citroen Type SB SM is powered by a Maserati V6 and rides on a hydro-pneumatic suspension. Those things are a flaming PITA to work on. For example, the right-front fender must be pulled to change the battery. The engine layout is interesting though. The engine is mounted backwards. There is a little platform mounted forward of the engine with the alternator, AC compressor, etc mounted on it. They are driven by a shaft coming off the back of the engine. The brakes are inboard. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Posted June 5, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted June 5, 2019 This isn’t what you probably think it is. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tous Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Eric said: This isn’t what you probably think it is. Based on the crossed flags emblem, I'm thinking Chevrolet collaboration with a European coach builder. The front elevation reminds me of a C1 Corvette. A lot. Don't keep us in suspense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, Eric said: This isn’t what you probably think it is. Nice for 1959. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, tous said: Based on the crossed flags emblem, I'm thinking Chevrolet collaboration with a European coach builder. The front elevation reminds me of a C1 Corvette. A lot. Don't keep us in suspense. 1959 Chevy Corvette Italia. Edited June 5, 2019 by janice6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, Eric said: This isn’t what you probably think it is. I bet it has a chevy engine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Posted June 5, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted June 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, tous said: Based on the crossed flags emblem, I'm thinking Chevrolet collaboration with a European coach builder. The front elevation reminds me of a C1 Corvette. A lot. Don't keep us in suspense. It’s a 1959 Corvette concept car with coach work by the Italian coach builders Scaglietti. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Eric said: It’s a 1959 Corvette concept car with coach work by the Italian coach builders Scaglietti. That can't be right. I'm not that smart. The wheels are another clue, except most Corvette wire wheels were hub caps, weren't they? Overall, I like it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Borg warner said: 1970 Mercedes C111-2 Concept car. This was a fiberglass body and had Gullwing doors and a 4 rotor Wankel engine. It never went into production for two principle reasons. One, Mercedes didn't want to build a fiberglass car and the same car made out of steel would have been too heavy and aluminum would have dented too easily. The second reason was that the Wankel engine, while it produced a great deal of power for it's weight an displacement, was not fuel efficient and also had to burn a certain amount of oil to keep the chambers sealed. it was designed to burn oil. It also produced poor emissions. M-B has one of these cars in it's Museum but the Wankel engine is kept in storage and the car is fitted with a 70's MB V8 engine to allow it to be driven. Well, there's your problem. Danged thing is orange. Utterly classic wedge-shape of the 1970s. Edited June 5, 2019 by tous 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, pipedreams said: The uniquely styled Citroen Type SB SM is powered by a Maserati V6 and rides on a hydro-pneumatic suspension. If I recall, the brake pedal was a plastic bulb on the floor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, tous said: If I recall, the brake pedal was a plastic bulb on the floor. It was either that or the windshield washer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I remember when I first saw an SM, my first impression was, Nice automobile -- if the chop off that bit behind the doors. That has to be the ugliest back end of an automobile ever. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Austin A40 Sports Convertible 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 A long way from the “any color you want so long as it’s black” era. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1924 Rolls Royce Jonckheere Sleek! The car is also. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Of the three years the two person T-bird was made, which is considered the optimum?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 My uncle had one of these for years, in the convertible style. His girl friend and later wife won a number of trophies at the local drag strip. The convertible design added just enough weight to move it from the bottom of one class to the top of the next one. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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