TBO Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Shot in the back as he was running away. Not defending the thief, but there's no way a non-cop could get away with a shoot like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPQer Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 When everything goes right and well, it's a beautiful thing to behold. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPQer Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2020/apr/24/video-shows-would-be-carjacker-shot-by-police-afte/ Quote The officer tried to pull over Rosa, but he took off, said Zimmerman, noting that Metro policy dictates that officers can only pursue if the motorist is in the middle of a felony offense or an imminent danger to the public. At that point, he was neither, so Metro dispatched a helicopter instead and employed the “bubble tactic,” in which officers will establish a mobile perimeter, guided by the helicopter while following traffic laws, Zimmerman said. I wonder if the driver in the red car considered him an imminent danger to the public? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBO Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 Shot in the back as he was running away. Not defending the thief, but there's no way a non-cop could get away with a shoot like that. Are you saying it was a bad shoot? Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) “Why couldn’t they shoot the gun out of his hand...like the movies” “Why you use unmarked cars..that ain’t fair” /sarc . Edited April 25, 2020 by Dric902 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, TBO said: Are you saying it was a bad shoot? The driver of the red car sure doesn’t think so . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, TBO said: Are you saying it was a bad shoot? Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk I'm a bit biased because I put thieves in the same category as rapists and child molesters and feel all three should be shot in the middle of the streets like rabid dogs. That said, I don't think it was a good shoot if it was done by an armed citizen and not a cop. Let's not pretend that cops don't get away with things that civilians can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBO Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 I'm a bit biased because I put thieves in the same category as rapists and child molesters and feel all three should be shot in the middle of the streets like rabid dogs. That said, I don't think it was a good shoot if it was done by an armed citizen and not a cop. Let's not pretend that cops don't get away with things that civilians can't. Do you believe this shooting was in violation of the law? Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrango Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, TBO said: Do you believe this shooting was in violation of the law? Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk In my mind it was textbook. Even if it was a citizen, it would/could be argued you were defending the driver of the red car. Even if you didn't know them. Not too hard to sell. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, TBO said: Do you believe this shooting was in violation of the law? Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk I did not see the jacker at anytime point his shotgun at the cops and even the guy doing the briefing said that the gun was not fired. As a CCer I can only legally shoot someone who's an immediate threat to my life. A guy with his back to me running away is not legally a threat to my life. Obviously this varies from state to state, but in my state I can 99.9% guarantee that I would have plenty of legal issues if I shot someone in the back running from me and killed them. That's all I'm trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Maser said: I did not see the jacker at anytime point his shotgun at the cops and even the guy doing the briefing said that the gun was not fired. As a CCer I can only legally shoot someone who's an immediate threat to my life. A guy with his back to me running away is not legally a threat to my life. Obviously this varies from state to state, but in my state I can 99.9% guarantee that I would have plenty of legal issues if I shot someone in the back running from me and killed them. That's all I'm trying to say. https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2018/12/shot-in-the-back-murder-or-self-defense/ . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBO Posted April 26, 2020 Author Share Posted April 26, 2020 I did not see the jacker at anytime point his shotgun at the cops and even the guy doing the briefing said that the gun was not fired. As a CCer I can only legally shoot someone who's an immediate threat to my life. A guy with his back to me running away is not legally a threat to my life. Obviously this varies from state to state, but in my state I can 99.9% guarantee that I would have plenty of legal issues if I shot someone in the back running from me and killed them. That's all I'm trying to say. So do you agree the Cops did not violate any law? Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Maser said: Shot in the back as he was running away. Not defending the thief, but there's no way a non-cop could get away with a shoot like that. You must not have watched the video. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Props to the Officer for quick Target acquisition, the RMR paid for itself in the first second of that shooting. Buick owner owes them Officers a Beer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, TBO said: So do you agree the Cops did not violate any law? Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk Okay, now you're just trolling me. Not sure what exactly you're trying to bait me into posting, but I said all that I needed to say already about the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pittpa Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Okay, now you're just trolling me. Not sure what exactly you're trying to bait me into posting, but I said all that I needed to say already about the incident. You have the option to not engage a person who is a danger to others. The police, not so much. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Czervik Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Maser said: I did not see the jacker at anytime point his shotgun at the cops and even the guy doing the briefing said that the gun was not fired. As a CCer I can only legally shoot someone who's an immediate threat to my life. A guy with his back to me running away is not legally a threat to my life. Obviously this varies from state to state, but in my state I can 99.9% guarantee that I would have plenty of legal issues if I shot someone in the back running from me and killed them. That's all I'm trying to say. Uh, da PO-lice in NV may use deadly force to protect others, effect an arrest, and to stop a dangerous suspect. I don't think it can be disputed that this guy was a dangerous suspect. Boomies until he stoppies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPQer Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 12 hours ago, Maser said: Shot in the back as he was running away. Not defending the thief, but there's no way a non-cop could get away with a shoot like that. I think that depends more on jurisdiction. I don't think the DA in my area would press charges. TN law requires ability, intent, and opportunity to cause death or serious bodily injury. When he points the gun at the driver of the red car, all three requirements are met, and there is no way to know that just because he turned his back, he wouldn't reengage. He obviously still met 2 of the 3 requirements, and #3 is a reasonable assumption. He still had the possibility of taking cover behind the car, and reengaging. Even in civilian training, we are taught to move during and after action, so it could be assumed that the perp was moving to cover. The only thing that would have changed the circumstances is if he dropped the gun. As long has he held on to the gun, he still had ability, opportunity, and intent. It looked like officer Tamino (sp?) fired his first shots while the perp was squared off facing him, and if he was hit in the back it was after he spun. Not that it matters for justification, but it would be interesting to see how many and where the officers landed hits. The perp never really pointed his gun at the officers, nor did he drop it when taking lead. Looking at the video from the business, you see that after he broke contact with the civilian, as he turned, the shotgun was at the low ready. Not that it matters. It was definitely a good shoot for the officers because they are charged with more responsibility, and most likely a good shoot for civilians in my area. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentpoet Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 ****, now he is going to be voting democrat. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duluth Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 He was trying to run from the red car he was trying to car jack towards other cars. Let alone pointing at the cops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 4 shots with the .45 11 with the 9mm jus sayin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 14 hours ago, TBO said: Are you saying it was a bad shoot? Looked like the marksmanship was very good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Dric902 said: 4 shots with the .45 11 with the 9mm jus sayin . Sucks to be him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTracker Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 How much lead did they pull out of the perp? The guy was pointing a gun at people and obviously a threat. How is this not a good shoot??? Some people just need a killin and this Hawaii'n jackhole obviously needed one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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