Dric902 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, Ramjet38 said: I took this pic in Juneau AK I bet they need it up there . 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, Ramjet38 said: I took this pic in Juneau AK MY wife and I had a dinner and train ride on a Zephyr from our past. It was maybe 10 to 20 years ago. it cost somewhere around $300. Times do change, don't they. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Just now, pipedreams said: Report post Posted just now MY wife and I had a dinner and train ride on a Zephyr from our past. It was maybe 10 to 20 years ago. It cost somewhere around $300. Times do change, don't they. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janice6 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, railfancwb said: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, janice6 said: Why? To get dizzy, apparently . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Dric902 said: To get dizzy, apparently . I guess my comment was rhetorical, but I still wonder how many engines were in that train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, janice6 said: I guess my comment was rhetorical, but I still wonder how many engines were in that train. It appears just one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 It appears just oneHere is a top view of the same spiral operation. Think they comment about car and locomotive counts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Dric902 said: It appears just one That's a hell of a load for just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, janice6 said: That's a hell of a load for just one. I know less than nothing about toy trains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Just now, Dric902 said: I know less than nothing about toy trains In this case I don't either. It just seemed to me that that load was being pulled up a shallow grade if with one engine the friction on the drive wheels would be severely challenged by the load. After I commented I saw the subsequent post of 8 engines. Thanks both of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, janice6 said: In this case I don't either. It just seemed to me that that load was being pulled up a shallow grade if with one engine the friction on the drive wheels would be severely challenged by the load. After I commented I saw the subsequent post of 8 engines. Thanks both of you. Oh shoot, you’re right. I didn’t see that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish1309 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, janice6 said: I guess my comment was rhetorical, but I still wonder how many engines were in that train. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bish1309 said: 8 I run real 230 car trains with three . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I run real 230 car trains with three .No doubt the continuous curvature on the model creates a lot of drag. There are periodic efforts by model railroaders to establish train length records for the Guinness World Records. From what I’ve read there is a massive amount of work behind the scenes tuning the locomotive(s) and cars and track. With today’s electronic control systems - DCC and others - the job may be easier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dric902 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, railfancwb said: No doubt the continuous curvature on the model creates a lot of drag. There are periodic efforts by model railroaders to establish train length records for the Guinness World Records. From what I’ve read there is a massive amount of work behind the scenes tuning the locomotive(s) and cars and track. With today’s electronic control systems - DCC and others - the job may be easier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk For a lot of years, the max for us was 150 cars. More than that and you needed approval. some track has weight limits, most of the welded mainlines don’t we are regularly over 200 now with 12,000 to 13,000 feet of length (length has a weight all its own) 18,000 + tons is not uncommon. I’ve personally had 23,000 tons 239 cars is my record its a joke now that the first one to 250 cars wins. . . 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 For a lot of years, the max for us was 150 cars. More than that and you needed approval. some track has weight limits, most of the welded mainlines don’t we are regularly over 200 now with 12,000 to 13,000 feet of length (length has a weight all its own) 18,000 + tons is not uncommon. I’ve personally had 23,000 tons 239 cars is my record its a joke now that the first one to 250 cars wins. . .How far back does distributed power have to be to avoid breaking couplers?Model railroaders - especially those using Lionel - have to avoid putting empty flat cars etc immediately behind the locomotive to avoid having them pulled off the track by the locomotive and the wait of the rest of the train. This is because of the tiny curves. Is this a problem for prototype railroads?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 hours ago, railfancwb said: How far back does distributed power have to be to avoid breaking couplers? Model railroaders - especially those using Lionel - have to avoid putting empty flat cars etc immediately behind the locomotive to avoid having them pulled off the track by the locomotive and the wait of the rest of the train. This is because of the tiny curves. Is this a problem for prototype railroads? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I, and most engineers I know, would rather have it on the rear of the train. When it is in the middle third (where they put it) you can’t feel what is going on behind the remote power. if it’s dragging, running out, or running in. You have to be a lot more gradual with applying power and plan farther ahead to stop. You’ve got to watch the screen pretty closely to see what it’s doing behind you, I’ve had the lead consist in Dynamic Brake and looked to see the remote in notch 8. There can be delays in reaction, communication problems, air brake issues. it works, but it keeps you busy . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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