Administrators Eric Posted September 12, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, pipedreams said: I'm familiar with AOW but didn't realize that would qualify. I'm guessing it contains a single shot, guess that's what could get someone in trouble like me.? Yep. If the gun can be fired while it is housed in the concealing device, like that wallet rig, the concealing device is Class III. The same rule of course applies to cane guns, tomahawk guns, etc. Anything that doesn't look like a gun when it shoots you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Eric said: Yep. If the gun can be fired while it is housed in the concealing device, like that wallet rig, the concealing device is Class III. The same rule of course applies to cane guns, tomahawk guns, etc. Anything that doesn't look like a gun when it shoots you. I see discussions about pistols with shoulder stocks and lot of discussion about SBR or AOW and never really understood the AOW thing. Thanks, AOW's not something that I'm really interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrators Eric Posted September 12, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted September 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, pipedreams said: I see discussions about pistols with shoulder stocks and lot of discussion about SBR or AOW and never really understood the AOW thing. Thanks, AOW's not something that I'm really interested in. Oh, that is only a small part of what falls into the AOW category. The NFA laws are complex, sometimes conflicting and often vague as hell. There is enough grey area for people to get royally screwed, unless they are very careful. The only way to know for sure about how the laws apply in a given instance, is to contact the ATF in writing, to ask for clarification. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janice6 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 2 hours ago, pipedreams said: Lots of traffic today. Beware of hitchhikers, everywhere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, Eric said: Oh, that is only a small part of what falls into the AOW category. The NFA laws are complex, sometimes conflicting and often vague as hell. There is enough grey area for people to get royally screwed, unless they are very careful. The only way to know for sure about how the laws apply in a given instance, is to contact the ATF in writing, to ask for clarification. As usual, lawyers use convoluted grammar to be able to change the interpretation as "needed". I once complained to the company Patent Attorney of the conflicting and confusing wording in my Patents. They even had a paragraph that was one and a half pages long! He said it was so they could more easily argue in favor of the patent when challenged, if some of it were ambiguous and they could define parts differently depending on the argument. Many politicians are lawyers and it shows when they redefine written laws. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janice6 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Silentpoet said: C'mon. You trying to tell me that there is something else...……….. BS. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janice6 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, pipedreams said: There is a very good feeling when you have a bond like that between you and your animal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Eric said: That right there is an Any Other Weapon (AOW) device. It doesn't seem like it would be worth it to get the tax stamp for something like that. I was told that a Serbu Super-Shorty was an NFA gun and the stamp for the AOW category was $5.00 if you get it as a transfer, meaning you didn't build it and form 4 it yourself a few years ago. Is that true with this wallet contraption? I would be interested in it just for a mantle talking piece if its $5.00 extra (plus the 8 to 12 month wait). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Posted September 13, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike said: I was told that a Serbu Super-Shorty was an NFA gun and the stamp for the AOW category was $5.00 if you get it as a transfer, meaning you didn't build it and form 4 it yourself a few years ago. Is that true with this wallet contraption? I would be interested in it just for a mantle talking piece if its $5.00 extra (plus the 8 to 12 month wait). I’m not sure how much the stamp is. I’d contact a Class III for accurate, up-to-date info. I do like that Surbu Super-Shorty as well. I’ve toyed with the idea of getting one. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Huaco Kid Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 I worked much too hard, and much too late, that I missed happy-hour. Such an egregious forced violation of the established precedence of the all-you-can-drink protocol can only be acquiesced with excessive 2 1/2 overtime. Which will be immediately and copiously applied. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Swampfox762 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 12:25 PM, Silentpoet said: Sounds like a story Barstool Guru told over on Glock forum.net before the site went to crap when the canadians took it over. Now there's nothin there but ads. You BSG Poet?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Go into a starbucks and order with Jack Mahogof. Hang in the back so they have to keep repeating it louder and louder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Huaco Kid Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 A full moon on Friday the 13th. If Jason's a werewolf... look out! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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