Israeli doctor in Italy: We no longer help those over 60

[pipedreams]

"Israeli medical doctor Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines."

https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

[janice6]

6 hours ago, pipedreams said:

"Israeli medical doctor Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines."

https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

All it actually took was the opportunity.

[DWARREN123]

Government deciding it's your time!

[janice6]

7 minutes ago, DWARREN123 said:

Government deciding it's your time!

The one thing governments can be depended on to do!  Unfortunately.

[Mrs.Cicero]

All socialized medicine results in that sort of thing, because under socialism, the supply will be limited to what the central planners are willing to spend on it, not on what the demand actually is.  Soooo, medicine gets rationed, and of course it is going to the younger "productive" (read TAXPAYING, not retired) members of society with the most number of years ahead of them to pay into the system (because the system is always a pyramid scheme). 

[janice6]

13 minutes ago, Mrs.Cicero said:

All socialized medicine results in that sort of thing, because under socialism, the supply will be limited to what the central planners are willing to spend on it, not on what the demand actually is.  Soooo, medicine gets rationed, and of course it is going to the younger "productive" (read TAXPAYING, not retired) members of society with the most number of years ahead of them to pay into the system (because the system is always a pyramid scheme). 

And they tell us how bad our system is.  I bet the claims for our bad system are from Italians under 60 years of age.

[Moshe]

This is why I keep opposing Shanda die Goyim Sanders and his idiot cohort's push for healthcare for all.  It simply creates death clocks, for those who are assumed not essential to society.  Whomever that might be.  Personally, I think extinguishing our elders is a crime against G-d.  That aside, whose next? We've seen this selectivity of race and culture forever determining who lives and who dies.

[janice6]

The claim is made that when you reach some plateau in advanced age, the system is paying significantly more to keep you healthy.

From this standpoint, the elderly are a liability financially, and if you ignore them, you save money.  This is the attraction of socialized medicine.  You can cut your costs by watching the elderly segment of your society die, without lifting a finger.

Sorta like sending them to camps. 

[Moshe]

On 4/30/2020 at 11:28 PM, janice6 said:

The claim is made that when you reach some plateau in advanced age, the system is paying significantly more to keep you healthy.

From this standpoint, the elderly are a liability financially, and if you ignore them, you save money.  This is the attraction of socialized medicine.  You can cut your costs by watching the elderly segment of your society die, without lifting a finger.

Sorta like sending them to camps. 

True.  And our elders are living history.  When they are gone, you get a text book and maybe some primary sources left behind.  That lends itself to scholarly debate, and a living, breathing resource is lost.  My MIL loved to talk and I would just listen.  I discovered a lot information I would never come across unless it was deliberately sought after.  It is kind of like when you start off in your career, seniority mattered.  Before, I left, I was told it didn't.  It is like making a copy of a copy of a copy.  It degrades over time.  Now, you have a group of people who never had to learn and didn't want to be trained.  Then the whole system degrades.

[GT4494]

so this is one way to kill off the "Boomers".  Remember they are the richest middle class in the country.  Kill them off, the kids get the inheritance and blow it so everyone is back on an even economic base.  The  .gov will be needed even more if there is any "crises"!!

Hows that for a tin foil theory that may have some truth to it!! 

[railfancwb]

On 5/4/2020 at 2:44 PM, Moshe said:

True.  And our elders are living history.  When they are gone, you get a text book and maybe some primary sources left behind.  That lends itself to scholarly debate, and a living, breathing resource is lost.  My MIL loved to talk and I would just listen.  I discovered a lot information I would never come across unless it was deliberately sought after.  It is kind of like when you start off in your career, seniority mattered.  Before, I left, I was told it didn't.  It is like making a copy of a copy of a copy.  It degrades over time.  Now, you have a group of people who never had to learn and didn't want to be trained.  Then the whole system degrades.

And currently a big push is to eliminate [study of] history to include changing historic names and destroying statues and memorials. 

[pittpa]

And they tell us how bad our system is.  I bet the claims for our bad system are from Italians under 60 years of age.

It seems that healthcare for all ultimately turns into healthcare for some with limited medical resources and limited money to pay for it.
I met a young lady from France I asked her how she liked their healthcare. She said it’s great if you’re young and healthy.


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[janice6]

8 minutes ago, pittpa said:

It seems that healthcare for all ultimately turns into healthcare for some with limited medical resources and limited money to pay for it.
I met a young lady from France I asked her how she liked their healthcare. She said it’s great if you’re young and healthy.


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I met with representatives of military aircraft manufacturers from across Europe.  Every one had their "free health care" and also said they paid for seperate healthcare, just to ensure they could be covered in a timely fashion.  They all said that government healthcare was garbage.