PNWguy Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 This NEEDS to happen! https://libertystate.org/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Good luck. I'd really like to see it happen but it's an uphill battle and the leftists will fight it with every fiber of their worthless souls. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNWguy Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 I don't see why they'd fight it; they claim that Eastern Washington is just a bunch of rednecks that are a drain on their perfect utopia and in the way of them passing more socialist policies. I'd think they'd be happy to see us go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, PNWguy said: I don't see why they'd fight it; they claim that Eastern Washington is just a bunch of rednecks that are a drain on their perfect utopia and in the way of them passing more socialist policies. I'd think they'd be happy to see us go. Two more Senators (likely Republican) would throw Schumer and the Democrooks into a tizzy. . 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish1309 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Just to be an optimist, there is a fault line just 150 miles west of all three of those Utope cities and we can only hope the plates are about to shift. Edited February 1, 2019 by Bish1309 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citra47 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Actually, you could look at many more states beside Washington that could benefit by splitting. To name just a few, Upstate New York, virtually the whole state of Illinois south of Chicago, possibly Florida north of Palm Beach County although Tallahassee is a hot bed of far left CommieDemDuh's,. Probably several states would benefit from a split. Texas in the future, but Texas can legally be formed into - if memory serves me correctly - up to five sections or states. The problem - other than the far western U.S. - is in the large cities which tend to turn CommieDemDuh. More rural areas tend to be conservative. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citra47 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Bish1309 said: Just to be an optimist, there is a fault line just 150 miles west of all three of those Utope cities and we can only hope the plates are about to shift. I'd feel better if the fault line was just 150 miles east ……………… Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, PNWguy said: I don't see why they'd fight it; they claim that Eastern Washington is just a bunch of rednecks that are a drain on their perfect utopia and in the way of them passing more socialist policies. I'd think they'd be happy to see us go. Rednecks as miserable slaves would please them far more than rednecks happy and free. Not to mention the congressional implications. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenoF250 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 CA needs to split worse but the problem is just like NV, CO, and TX the liberal ticks would move away from the taxes and turn the new states into the same piles of **** they left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_ml Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 The problem is, the way it needs to be split in most states only involves a few urban areas where there is high population density. Once you get outside of 30 minutes or so commute from the edge of the urban district, you're back into conservative territory in most cases. I'm about 20 minutes outside of Olympia, and it's pretty conservative from here all the way down to portland, and all along the coast until you get back into puget sound. The election results for I1639 gives a pretty good view of where the state needs divided, but only works if you do something to limit the liberals from moving out of their crap hole cities and spreading their ideology. https://results.vote.wa.gov/results/20181106/State-Measures-Initiative-Measure-No-1639-Initiative-Measure-No-1639-concerns-firearms_ByCounty.html I think the proposed flag is a little too detailed, should be a simpler pattern in order to make it easier to recreate at home accurately. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMyers Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Can we get a deal to split Illinois? We would love to get rid of Chicago and all those anti-gun regs they like to push downstate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 So poor desert half of the state not floated by the rich wet side of the state? Used to go to Spokane for business regularly, lots of junkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Who gets the nukes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 If you did Georgia the conservatives would get the donuts and the liberals would get the holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish1309 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Citra47 said: I'd feel better if the fault line was just 150 miles east ……………… Just saying. Think tsunami... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, gwalchmai said: Who gets the nukes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_ml Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Other problem is, once you split the state, you now have Spokane in charge of Eastern WA, as nobody else has anywhere near enough people to vote against them. Spokane voted in favor of additional gun control laws. Just trading one urban population center for another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadbart Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 There was some talk a few years back about the state of Jefferson, involving E WA, E OR, and N CA. Sad to see that never got much traction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 9 hours ago, PNWguy said: I don't see why they'd fight it; they claim that Eastern Washington is just a bunch of rednecks that are a drain on their perfect utopia and in the way of them passing more socialist policies. I'd think they'd be happy to see us go. No they wouldn't. More than anything, they want to control us. And a conservative 51st state with two Republican Senators would be the DNC's worst nightmare. Not only that. but it would set a precedent that other states would want to follow. Illinois would want to split north and south and Oregon would want to follow Washington's example. And every new state that split off form the Liberal one would likely get tow new Republican Senators. It's unlikely to happen anyway because the Left side of the state is more populated than the East of the cascades and we wouldn't have the votes to pass this. Our best bet would be to figure out a way that Eastern Washington could be annexed to become part of Idaho and maybe Oregon too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windowasher Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Did we not sacrifice about 600,000 American lives to settle this S^!t about 160 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Stick Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 The long game consequences of allowing a state to split are not favorable to America. It youre upset upset about the way things are now, you’ll be even more upset when they split states and become unbeatable. Same reason the the popular vote split can never be allowed. Large, urban population centers will always vote liberal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Moeman said: So poor desert half of the state not floated by the rich wet side of the state? Used to go to Spokane for business regularly, lots of junkies. No. The east side west of the cascades pays taxes that helps to float projects on the West side of the state. And as far as the junkies and tweakers, that's because so many of the ex-cons and criminal repeat offenders get paroled on the east side of the state where it's cheaper to live. Edited February 1, 2019 by Borg warner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, windowasher said: Did we not sacrifice about 600,000 American lives to settle this S^!t about 160 years ago? If at first you don't Secede, try, try, again. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gwalchmai Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, windowasher said: Did we not sacrifice about 600,000 American lives to settle this S^!t about 160 years ago? Um, no. Party line nowdays is that was all about freeing the slaves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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