No vote, no impeachment

[Ricordo]

FWIW. Regarding the "official  impeachment inquiry", a word of advice borrowed from the Dems--- Resistance.

At every step of the way.

That is, until the Durham/Barr indictments roll out fresh from the Court's dockets.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-adam-schiff-write-whistleblower-complaint-advance-knowledge

[Dric902]

On 10/1/2019 at 3:29 PM, Booker said:

You're wrong!  There is no Constitutional term known as an "Official Impeachment Inquiry"    The only thing the COTUS states in Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5, is that the House shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.  The House gets to make it's own rules.

If they get to make their own rules....then they can make “official impeachment inquiry”...official

 

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[janice6]

So, is it   anticipated that if this impeachment goes the way Bill Clinton's did, will  it have the same impact on Trump as Bill's had on him.  Sarcasm.

Bill enjoyed life with no temporary, nor permanent, effects from his impeachment. Democrat's viewed his impeachment as simply a battle scar.

[Ricordo]

47 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

If they get to make their own rules....then they can make “official impeachment inquiry”...official

 

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Sorry. Not the way it works. A vote approving it is required. BTDT.

But this is part of the shitshow. If approval is voted, due process is owed to Republicans. That's why they won't bring the vote. It's all a political crapstick.

But wait for the Durham/Barr indictments. Watch it all deflate. http://theboresite.com/forums/topic/4061-civil-liberties-and-deflection/

Deflection/projection. And Dems think they are so smart.

 

[Ricordo]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2019/10/03/3462969432530700465/636x382_MP4_3462969432530700465.mp4

 

 

[Moshe]

It is election season fever, with a hint to protect Hillary from herself.  Keep him busy to keep her from being prosecuted, and make idiot Joe look better.  A political stunt, which I called them on, since Nancy Pelosi is stupid enough to think I am in her district.  

[Ricordo]

I keep hearing, especially among people that should know better, that hearsay evidence is inadmissible in a Court of law  because it is inherently unreliable and untrustworthy.

Not exactly true. Truth based on facts, people!

There are exceptions to hearsay evidence in the Federal Rules of Evidence and in states that adopted some version of them.

Rule 803. Exceptions to the Rule Against Hearsay

The following are not excluded by the rule against hearsay, regardless of whether the declarant is available as a witness:

(1) Present Sense Impression. A statement describing or explaining an event or condition, made while or immediately after the declarant perceived it.

(2) Excited Utterance. A statement relating to a startling event or condition, made while the declarant was under the stress of excitement that it caused.

(3) Then-Existing Mental, Emotional, or Physical Condition. A statement of the declarant’s then-existing state of mind (such as motive, intent, or plan) or emotional, sensory, or physical condition (such as mental feeling, pain, or bodily health), but not including a statement of memory or belief to prove the fact remembered or believed unless it relates to the validity or terms of the declarant’s will.

(4) Statement Made for Medical Diagnosis or Treatment. A statement that:

(A) is made for — and is reasonably pertinent to — medical diagnosis or treatment; and

(B) describes medical history; past or present symptoms or sensations; their inception; or their general cause.

(5) Recorded Recollection. A record that:

(A) is on a matter the witness once knew about but now cannot recall well enough to testify fully and accurately;

(B) was made or adopted by the witness when the matter was fresh in the witness’s memory; and

(C) accurately reflects the witness’s knowledge.

If admitted, the record may be read into evidence but may be received as an exhibit only if offered by an adverse party.

(6) Records of a Regularly Conducted Activity. A record of an act, event, condition, opinion, or diagnosis if:

(A) the record was made at or near the time by — or from information transmitted by — someone with knowledge;

(B) the record was kept in the course of a regularly conducted activity of a business, organization, occupation, or calling, whether or not for profit;

(C) making the record was a regular practice of that activity;

(D) all these conditions are shown by the testimony of the custodian or another qualified witness, or by a certification that complies with Rule 902(11) or (12) or with a statute permitting certification; and

(E) neither the opponent does not show that the source of information nor or the method or circumstances of preparation indicate a lack of trustworthiness.

(7) Absence of a Record of a Regularly Conducted Activity. Evidence that a matter is not included in a record described in paragraph (6) if:

(A) the evidence is admitted to prove that the matter did not occur or exist;

(B) a record was regularly kept for a matter of that kind; and

(C) neither the opponent does not show that the possible source of the information nor or  other circumstances indicate a lack of trustworthiness.

(8) Public Records. A record or statement of a public office if:

(A) it sets out:

(i) the office’s activities;

(ii) a matter observed while under a legal duty to report, but not including, in a criminal case, a matter observed by law-enforcement personnel; or

(iii) in a civil case or against the government in a criminal case, factual findings from a legally authorized investigation; and

(B) neither the opponent does not show that the source of information nor or other circumstances indicate a lack of trustworthiness.

(9) Public Records of Vital Statistics. A record of a birth, death, or marriage, if reported to a public office in accordance with a legal duty.

(10) Absence of a Public Record. Testimony — or a certification under Rule 902 — that a diligent search failed to disclose a public record or statement if:

(A) the testimony or certification is admitted to prove that

(i) the record or statement does not exist; or

(ii) a matter did not occur or exist, if a public office regularly kept a record or statement for a matter of that kind; and

(B) in a criminal case, a prosecutor who intends to offer a certification provides written notice of that intent at least 14 days before trial, and the defendant does not object in writing within 7 days of receiving the notice — unless the court sets a different time for the notice or the objection.

(11) Records of Religious Organizations Concerning Personal or Family History. A statement of birth, legitimacy, ancestry, marriage, divorce, death, relationship by blood or marriage, or similar facts of personal or family history, contained in a regularly kept record of a religious organization.

(12) Certificates of Marriage, Baptism, and Similar Ceremonies. A statement of fact contained in a certificate:

(A) made by a person who is authorized by a religious organization or by law to perform the act certified;

(B) attesting that the person performed a marriage or similar ceremony or administered a sacrament; and

(C) purporting to have been issued at the time of the act or within a reasonable time after it.

(13) Family Records. A statement of fact about personal or family history contained in a family record, such as a Bible, genealogy, chart, engraving on a ring, inscription on a portrait, or engraving on an urn or burial marker.

(14) Records of Documents That Affect an Interest in Property. The record of a document that purports to establish or affect an interest in property if:

(A) the record is admitted to prove the content of the original recorded document, along with its signing and its delivery by each person who purports to have signed it;

(B) the record is kept in a public office; and

(C) a statute authorizes recording documents of that kind in that office.

(15) Statements in Documents That Affect an Interest in Property. A statement contained in a document that purports to establish or affect an interest in property if the matter stated was relevant to the document’s purpose — unless later dealings with the property are inconsistent with the truth of the statement or the purport of the document.

(16) Statements in Ancient Documents. A statement in a document that was prepared before January 1, 1998, and whose authenticity is established.

(17) Market Reports and Similar Commercial Publications. Market quotations, lists, directories, or other compilations that are generally relied on by the public or by persons in particular occupations.

(18) Statements in Learned Treatises, Periodicals, or Pamphlets. A statement contained in a treatise, periodical, or pamphlet if:

(A) the statement is called to the attention of an expert witness on cross-examination or relied on by the expert on direct examination; and

(B) the publication is established as a reliable authority by the expert’s admission or testimony, by another expert’s testimony, or by judicial notice.

If admitted, the statement may be read into evidence but not received as an exhibit.

(19) Reputation Concerning Personal or Family History. A reputation among a person’s family by blood, adoption, or marriage — or among a person’s associates or in the community — concerning the person’s birth, adoption, legitimacy, ancestry, marriage, divorce, death, relationship by blood, adoption, or marriage, or similar facts of personal or family history.

(20) Reputation Concerning Boundaries or General History. A reputation in a community — arising before the controversy — concerning boundaries of land in the community or customs that affect the land, or concerning general historical events important to that community, state, or nation.

(21) Reputation Concerning Character. A reputation among a person’s associates or in the community concerning the person’s character.

(22) Judgment of a Previous Conviction. Evidence of a final judgment of conviction if:

(A) the judgment was entered after a trial or guilty plea, but not a nolo contendere plea;

(B) the conviction was for a crime punishable by death or by imprisonment for more than a year;

(C) the evidence is admitted to prove any fact essential to the judgment; and

(D) when offered by the prosecutor in a criminal case for a purpose other than impeachment, the judgment was against the defendant.

The pendency of an appeal may be shown but does not affect admissibility.

(23) Judgments Involving Personal, Family, or General History, or a Boundary. A judgment that is admitted to prove a matter of personal, family, or general history, or boundaries, if the matter:

(A) was essential to the judgment; and

(B) could be proved by evidence of reputation.

(24) [Other Exceptions .] [Transferred to Rule 807.]

 

Jesus!

Edited October 4, 2019 by Ricordo

[Ricordo]

In other news, Secretary Pompeo is shitin' his pants thinking about a House contempt vote. Fortunately for him, he's next in line behind Holder's 2012 contempt charge.

In other other news, the Prez posted on ichan, "The Dems still don't get it. Starry, starry night---perhaps they never will."

Btw, so nice to see Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Adam Schiff and Joe Biden in a GEICO commercial.

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 2019 by Ricordo

[janice6]

10 hours ago, Ricordo said:

In other news, Secretary Pompeo is shitin' his pants thinking about a House contempt vote. Fortunately for him, he's next in line behind Holder's 2012 contempt charge.

In other other news, the Prez posted on ichan, "The Dems still don't get it. Starry, starry night---perhaps they never will."

Btw, so nice to see Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Adam Schiff and Joe Biden in a GEICO commercial.

 

 

 

In all the horror movies I have seen, the victim never has a pistol or self defense weapon. 

These movies are advertisements for the results of Democrats taking away the right to self defense.

I suspect that the villain may also be a Democrat.

[Dric902]

To be honest and law abiding (which our side is supposed to be) there is no Constitution requirement for an “inquiry vote” before an impeachment investigation.

having a ‘pre vote’ to determine how each member would vote on impeachment only shows that the verdict is predetermined before the investigation. We don’t ‘sentence on indictment’ in this country.

the impeachment is meant to delegitimize Trump and swing the election. There is no hope of conviction in the Senate.

for the Trump advisors to have Trump tweet about an ‘Inquiry vote’ is as much bullshit as the impeachment inquiry itself. Fire up the base and fundraise.

 

its all straw

 

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[Ricordo]

Schiff also agrees with denying process to anyone that disagrees with him. Seems that he's not the only graduate of the Taco Bell School of Law.

Funny then that process is properly  covered in the Johnson, Nixon, and Clinton inquiries. Perhaps the book that TBSofL used as a textbook had a misprint.

 

[Dric902]

Politics is a reality show level of reality...literally

[Ricordo]

26 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

Politics is a reality show level of reality...literally

Naw, this is something else.

Don't you know that in this "inquiry", Reps can't subpoena or cross-examine? That is is literally one-sided? That those who state that they are "defending the Constitution" are treating it like toilet paper?

Uncle Leonid would be extremely proud.

[Dric902]

It will never get through the Senate

its about the lefty base and fundraising .

[janice6]

2 hours ago, Dric902 said:

It will never get through the Senate

its about the lefty base and fundraising .

Hope for the hopeless.

[Cougar_ml]

On 10/5/2019 at 6:20 PM, janice6 said:

In all the horror movies I have seen, the victim never has a pistol or self defense weapon. 

These movies are advertisements for the results of Democrats taking away the right to self defense.

I suspect that the villain may also be a Democrat.

 

[Ricordo]

Dem dreams...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnF1OtP2Svk

Edited October 9, 2019 by Ricordo

[janice6]

3 hours ago, Ricordo said:

Dem dreams...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnF1OtP2Svk

I knew there was going to be trouble when the Democratic leaders watched this movie.