Moeman Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2018/11/23/major-trump-administration-climate-report-says-damages-are-intensifying-across-country/?utm_term=.5fe65ba16c2a Major Trump administration climate report says damages are ‘intensifying across the country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Paywall. And I ain't payin'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 It still doesn't explain why they can find whale bones in the Nevada desert. They keep forgetting that part. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBud Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Anybody believe WaPo? Propaganda at its worst. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, Huaco Kid said: It still doesn't explain why they can find whale bones in the Nevada desert. They keep forgetting that part. They are right next to Jimmy Hoffa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, BamaBud said: Anybody believe WaPo? Propaganda at its worst. Uh, it came out from the White House which now is the bottom level other than Alex Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWARREN123 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Nature is in charge of climate changes not humans. The climate was changing before people, we only have to worry when it stops changing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DWARREN123 said: Nature is in charge of climate changes not humans. The climate was changing before people, we only have to worry when it stops changing. Name me another time where close to seven billion humans and the post industrial revolution happened. Not saying humans caused it, but we sure have contributed significantly. Billion screwed up from millions Edited November 24, 2018 by Moeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBud Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, Moeman said: Name me another time where close to seven million humans and the post industrial revolution happened. Not saying humans caused it, but we sure have contributed significantly. Then we need to get rid of that seven MILLION for the good of the others. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, Moeman said: Name me another time where close to seven million humans and the post industrial revolution happened. Not saying humans caused it, but we sure have contributed significantly. I know we cause the oceans in Nevada to desiccate, but since then, the carbon -credit program kept us from doing any more damage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBud Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Here's another example of WaPo "reporting." https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/2018/11/23/whats-up-with-all-those-black-men-who-voted-republican-georgia-governors-race/?noredirect=on What’s up with all those black men who voted for the Republican in the Georgia governor’s race? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 A large lake and a very cool river near us was formed where a glacier stopped and melted. I don't bbq in the backyard now, to keep it from happening again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, BamaBud said: Then we need to get rid of that seven MILLION for the good of the others. So you're a-sayin' that if we kick one percent of the human population off of the planet, Gaia will be happy? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBO Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 The planet has gone through multiple heating & cooling cycles before the iron horse was even an idea. Sent from my Jack boot using Copatalk 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) We are just here for the ride, nature doesn't let us steer, or run the engine. Isn't this a case of, "It all happened before, but this time the results will be different". Sounds familiar. Edited November 24, 2018 by janice6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Let's understand what we're talking about. The only way to determine if human habitation and machines caused a gross, detrimental change in the Earth's climate over, say, the past 300 years is to rewind time to 300 years ago, remove the humans, thus, no machines, and then record climate data for the next 300 years and compare that to what we have already noted. Any other hypothesis is speculation and most of it, rank speculation motivated by interests other than science and the truth. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Just now, tous said: Let's understand what we're talking about. The only way to determine if human habitation and machines caused a gross, detrimental change in the Earth's climate over, say, the past 300 years is to rewind time to 300 years ago, remove the humans, thus, no machines, and then record climate data for the next 300 years and compare that to what we have already noted. Any other hypothesis is speculation and most of it, rank speculation motivated by interests other than science and the truth. The scientific "community" has previously demonstrated that if you go against their teachings, you will risk life and limb. Ask Copernicus and a few others. https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-galileo-controversy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Forget not that many that call themselves scientists are little more than grant collectors and if they need to compromise science for bucks, they will. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, BamaBud said: Then we need to get rid of that seven MILLION for the good of the others. 24 minutes ago, tous said: Let's understand what we're talking about. The only way to determine if human habitation and machines caused a gross, detrimental change in the Earth's climate over, say, the past 300 years is to rewind time to 300 years ago, remove the humans, thus, no machines, and then record climate data for the next 300 years and compare that to what we have already noted. Any other hypothesis is speculation and most of it, rank speculation motivated by interests other than science and the truth. 19 minutes ago, janice6 said: The scientific "community" has previously demonstrated that if you go against their teachings, you will risk life and limb. Ask Copernicus and a few others. https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-galileo-controversy Or just look at places where like the Hudson River, Beijing.... my family has witnessed the coral go down anywhere near a golf course in HI. The fertilizer. Some of it gained back by people pumping the brake pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, BamaBud said: Then we need to get rid of that seven MILLION for the good of the others. Oops fixed that spell check. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 "An experimental science is supposed to perform experiments that find generalities. It's not just supposed to tally up a long list of individual cases and their unique life histories. That's butterfly collecting. " -Richard C. Lewontin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moeman Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 So dinosaurs pumped coal into the air or some kind of equivalent? Yes, I know it was a cool down. Basically put poisens into air, water etc and the end game is an end game for future generations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Neanderthal-made global warming? Their brains were to small to have solar power. Oh wait, they did have it. It's highly likely that their technology changed the climate. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Moeman said: So dinosaurs pumped coal into the air or some kind of equivalent? Yes, I know it was a cool down. Basically put poisens into air, water etc and the end game is an end game for future generations. Andre the Giant is known for producing a 16 second fart on the set of "The Princess Bride". Can you imagine what Andre the Apatosaurus was capable of? https://www.livescience.com/20125-dinosaur-farts-climate.html Edited November 24, 2018 by gwalchmai 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) so way back when it was Global Cooling,i was told not to throw Styrofoam containers out the window anymore. now that it`s global cooling is it ok to litter again? and its Global Cooling again do i get to counter it by using CFC deodorant again? Edited November 24, 2018 by holyjohnson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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