Administrators Eric Posted March 29, 2021 Author Administrators Share Posted March 29, 2021 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Eric said: B-15 or B-19. I always get them confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) The Douglas XB-19 had swept-back wings mounted lower. I think that that might be the B-17 prototype; the Model 229. Though, the waist is a bit too narrow, the wings are mounted at an angle, it appears, and those aren't radial engines. Nope. Not a Model 229. The rounded rudder and no extension of the empannage under the tail tells me that it is a B-15. Edited March 30, 2021 by tous 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox762 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, tous said: The Douglas XB-19 had swept-back wings mounted lower. I think that that might be the B-17 prototype; the Model 229. Though, the waist is a bit too narrow, the wings are mounted at an angle, it appears, and those aren't radial engines. Nope. Not a Model 229. The rounded rudder and no extension of the empannage under the tail tells me that it is a B-15. You're an incredible source of information sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 You will think me odd, but sitting here with a browser and the entire Internet at my disposal, my first thought to answer the question was to refer to several books on aircraft, from the very begiining to the turn of the century that I have in a bookcase behind me. I do the same to identify automobiles and ships. Books. I am old. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox762 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, tous said: You will think me odd, but sitting here with a browser and the entire Internet at my disposal, my first thought to answer the question was to refer to several books on aircraft, from the very begiining to the turn of the century that I have in a bookcase behind me. I do the same to identify automobiles and ships. Books. I am old. You're Incredible sir. Always enjoy anything you have to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) When trying to identify pre-war, American automobiles, I focus on the radiator shells and grills. The cars were all shaped basically the same, but each manufacturer had a distinct grill as their trademark, I suppose. Not always definitive, but a danged good clue. It is always good if you can clearly see the hood ornament. Another good clue. Edited March 30, 2021 by tous 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul53 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) On 2/18/2021 at 10:12 PM, Al Czervik said: Anyone know what this bird is? Looks to me like a Helio Courier that grew a turbine engine and wink tanks. As I remember the first true STOL bird, but leading edge slots and slats were involved and I don't see them here. Edited March 30, 2021 by Paul53 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul53 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 2/20/2021 at 8:02 PM, Al Czervik said: The Staggerwing is one of the most beautiful aircraft ever made. Saw one on the ramp in Hampton NH, probably decades ago. The interior was bigger than you'd think from looking at the airframe, and well appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Czervik Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 30 minutes ago, Paul53 said: Looks to me like a Helio Courier that grew a turbine engine and wink tanks. As I remember the first true STOL bird, but leading edge slots and slats were involved and I don't see them here. Close, it is a Helio Stallion. 20 were made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 On 2/20/2021 at 7:02 PM, Al Czervik said: The Staggerwing is one of the most beautiful aircraft ever made. Come to Tennessee. See the museum. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g55390-d3591250-Reviews-Beechcraft_Heritage_Museum-Tullahoma_Tennessee.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul53 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I have to wonder if there's such a complete collection of aircraft pics anywhere else? Helio Stallion! I see the family resemblance. There was a Mel Gibson movie that showed one in the Viet Nam war era, "Air America." Looking at some of the bizarre experimental aircraft I can't help but wonder why anybody in their right minds would test fly them. The sanity of the designers is also suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Czervik Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Paul53 said: I have to wonder if there's such a complete collection of aircraft pics anywhere else? Helio Stallion! I see the family resemblance. There was a Mel Gibson movie that showed one in the Viet Nam war era, "Air America." Looking at some of the bizarre experimental aircraft I can't help but wonder why anybody in their right minds would test fly them. The sanity of the designers is also suspect. That was a PC-6, Pilatus Porter. They look similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul53 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 42 minutes ago, Al Czervik said: That was a PC-6, Pilatus Porter. They look similar. Form follows function. Thanks for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox762 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Now there's some Wind shear for ya!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampfox762 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 (edited) Toys... Edited March 30, 2021 by Swampfox762 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Swampfox762 said: Now there's some Wind shear for ya!!! Don’t B-52s have the capability to turn their landing gear at an angle to the fuselage? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, railfancwb said: Don’t B-52s have the capability to turn their landing gear at an angle to the fuselage? Isn’t that called “crabbing” . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 WWII-era plane pulled from Lake Michigan now on display at Virginia Beach Such planes destroyed four Japanese aircraft carriers in a single day at the Battle of Midway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Czervik Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Swampfox762 said: Now there's some Wind shear for ya!!! That's just a crosswind landing. Wind shear is different. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Indeed. Though there is horizontal wind shear, the vertical type is far more common. Were that wind shear, we would see the aircraft violently hop to one side or the other, not float. The sudden direction change (up, down, port, starboard) can go from 0 knots to 50 knots in the blink of an eye and change direction just as rapidly. Makes the pilot's day exciting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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