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1 hour ago, pipedreams said:

Thanks to photographers of the past, we can view places like the Hexagon House Hotel which was built in 1895 and dismantled in 1959 for its building materials. (Mineral Wells, Texas.)

 

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They did like their mules, didn’t they.  

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No other family in American history has suffered a wartime loss like that of Waterloo's Sullivan family.

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Child soldier - in desperation the Nazi's used many of these children often as fodder for front line diversionary actions. These children didn't have a chance.

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This photo, taken at the end of the war shows a young boy terrified by the sounds of battle. He even wet his pants! You can see he is being told to toughen up!

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25 minutes ago, pipedreams said:

Child soldier - in desperation the Nazi's used many of these children often as fodder for front line diversionary actions. These children didn't have a chance.

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This photo, taken at the end of the war shows a young boy terrified by the sounds of battle. He even wet his pants! You can see he is being told to toughen up!

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That top photo looks like a Soviet child soldier. tom.

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It was like this for me when I was young. I remember Papa would leave us out on a wagon or something way out in the woods. He would always say, “Be really quiet if you hear the wolves howling..... or they’ll GET YOU!!!!, and “Don’t crap your pants, either.....”


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10 minutes ago, deputy tom said:

That top photo looks like a Soviet child soldier. tom.

You got a point after looking at it again, guess the author of the article didn't recognize the difference.

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3 minutes ago, pipedreams said:

You got a point after looking at it again, guess the author of the article didn't recognize the difference.

Yeah, the soldier in the background is a Soviet so the kid is probably as well. tom. :cowboy2:

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5 minutes ago, pipedreams said:

You got a point after looking at it again, guess the author of the article didn't recognize the difference.

Not only did the author mess up so did I, the helmet style is a big clue.

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44 minutes ago, deputy tom said:

Yeah, the soldier in the background is a Soviet so the kid is probably as well. tom. :cowboy2:

I’ve never found anything about the soviets using child soldiers, but as runners, etc.  Most pictures showing Soviet youth like that were Young Pioneers uniformed and provided with demilled weapons.  Not saying it didn’t happen, but I’ve not seen anything pointing to organization of such.  And I don’t doubt that had Stalin been in Hitler’s shoes, he would have done the same.  

On the other hand the nazis did organize last ditch groups like this, made up of Hitler Youth, who would often fight past even the SS.  Both Soviet and British and American troops hated running into them because there was no predicting if you would have to kill them or the opposite.  At the same time Hitler was giving medals to some in the last film of him, the SS was hanging others, some as young as 12, for running away.  

I saw a video of a Soviet soldier, 82 at the time, crying as he told of killing them.  He said it was the first time he had ever been able to talk about it.  

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5 minutes ago, Brown Hawk said:

I’ve never found anything about the soviets using child soldiers, but as runners, etc.  Most pictures showing Soviet youth like that were Young Pioneers uniformed and provided with demilled weapons.  Not saying it didn’t happen, but I’ve not seen anything pointing to organization of such.  And I don’t doubt that had Stalin been in Hitler’s shoes, he would have done the same.  

On the other hand the nazis did organize last ditch groups like this, made up of Hitler Youth, who would often fight past even the SS.  Both Soviet and British and American troops hated running into them because there was no predicting if you would have to kill them or the opposite.  At the same time Hitler was giving medals to some in the last film of him, the SS was hanging others, some as young as 12, for running away.  

I saw a video of a Soviet soldier, 82 at the time, crying as he told of killing them.  He said it was the first time he had ever been able to talk about it.  

Hawk 

Just look at the photo for my reference. tom.

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7 minutes ago, deputy tom said:

Just look at the photo for my reference. tom.

I did.  Biggest tell is that the soldier behind him is standing upright, hands relaxed at his side.  That could be an ack-ack gun behind the soldier.  To me the likeliest scenario is that this is possibly an orphan that some unit adopted, just like many American and British units did.  Which would also explain the worn collar and pockets in the too big tunics.  Also, no gun, just that one grenade.  Hitler youth almost always posed with rifles, etc.  

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6 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

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She must have some seriously big hands.

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1 minute ago, SC Tiger said:

She must have some seriously big hands.

 

 

Yes please. tom. :cheers:

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3 minutes ago, Brown Hawk said:

I did.  Biggest tell is that the soldier behind him is standing upright, hands relaxed at his side.  That could be an ack-ack gun behind the soldier.  To me the likeliest scenario is that this is possibly an orphan that some unit adopted, just like many American and British units did.  Which would also explain the worn collar and pockets in the too big tunics.  Also, no gun, just that one grenade.  Hitler youth almost always posed with rifles, etc.  

Hawk

Good point however the Russians were quite desperate and used a lot of women, so young boys wouldn't surprise me.   The Russians had 800,000 women in uniform, from nurses and admin staff all the way to snipers and specialists on the front lines.  However in a quick search didn't find anything about boy soldiers.

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23 minutes ago, pipedreams said:

Good point however the Russians were quite desperate and used a lot of women, so young boys wouldn't surprise me.   The Russians had 800,000 women in uniform, from nurses and admin staff all the way to snipers and specialists on the front lines.  However in a quick search didn't find anything about boy soldiers.

Agreed.  And there were also battalions of women soldiers armed with sub machine guns.  And boys and girls in partisan units, but that was more a matter of staying alive than fighting.  Just no mention of boys being inserted into front line units.  Even Germany didn’t do it until the last months of the war.  

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