Ricordo Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-administration-honors-black-world-war-ii-hero-in-a-big-way "The Trump administration is set to honor World War II hero Ship’s Cook Third Class Doris Miller during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day ceremony at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, by naming a future Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier after Miller. The decision was made by Thomas B. Modly, who was appointed by President Donald Trump to Undersecretary of the Navy in 2017 and took over as Acting Secretary of the Navy last year after Trump fired Richard Spencer from the role in November... Miller, who died in 1943, described firing the weapon, which he had not been trained to do, by saying, “It wasn’t hard. I just pulled the trigger and she worked fine. I had watched the others with these guns. I guess I fired her for about fifteen minutes. I think I got one of those Jap planes. They were diving pretty close to us.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnfalman Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Better than naming the ship after Clinton or Obama. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Ricordo said: https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-administration-honors-black-world-war-ii-hero-in-a-big-way "The Trump administration is set to honor World War II hero Ship’s Cook Third Class Doris Miller during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day ceremony at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, by naming a future Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier after Miller. The decision was made by Thomas B. Modly, who was appointed by President Donald Trump to Undersecretary of the Navy in 2017 and took over as Acting Secretary of the Navy last year after Trump fired Richard Spencer from the role in November... Miller, who died in 1943, described firing the weapon, which he had not been trained to do, by saying, “It wasn’t hard. I just pulled the trigger and she worked fine. I had watched the others with these guns. I guess I fired her for about fifteen minutes. I think I got one of those Jap planes. They were diving pretty close to us.” His initiative, confidence, determination, self reliance, are traits that today's liberal society is calling offensive and threatening. I guess if you have none of these traits and encounter a person with them, you might feel insignificant. Most can be a better person, you just have to try! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Fnfalman said: Better than naming the ship after Clinton or Obama. A Nuclear missile should carry Obama's name. After all, they both produce the same results. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Damn fine American good for his family 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnfalman Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, janice6 said: A Nuclear missile should carry Obama's name. After all, they both produce the same results. Dud? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Fnfalman said: Better than naming the ship after Clinton or Obama. True. That man was a stud. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueiron Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 The Navy has thrown out the tradition of naming ships. Once upon a time, the Navy was very traditional, but no longer and that's rather sad. While SC/3 Miller deserves honors and accolades for his actions, I don't believe that CVN class ships should be named after Presidents, office holders, or individuals. They aren't even named after States of the Union. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Fnfalman said: Dud? Total devastation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnfalman Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, blueiron said: The Navy has thrown out the tradition of naming ships. Once upon a time, the Navy was very traditional, but no longer and that's rather sad. While SC/3 Miller deserves honors and accolades for his actions, I don't believe that CVN class ships should be named after Presidents, office holders, or individuals. They aren't even named after States of the Union. Battleships were named after the Great States. I think some of th submarines are now named after the States. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_ship_naming_conventions Note: Under Minesweepers, my Minesweeper was considered to intimidating, therefore it's the only one named, USS AGRESSIVE. The powers that be at the time, thought that the names should be less "aggressive", and the rest of her class were named, USS Adroit, USS Agile, USS Ability, and other pansy ass names like that. I kind'a favor, USS Death, USS Destruction, stuff like that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Aggressive Edited January 20, 2020 by janice6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, blueiron said: The Navy has thrown out the tradition of naming ships. Once upon a time, the Navy was very traditional, but no longer and that's rather sad. While SC/3 Miller deserves honors and accolades for his actions, I don't believe that CVN class ships should be named after Presidents, office holders, or individuals. They aren't even named after States of the Union. I had the same thought. Normally these things are named after presidents and sometimes sec. nav. or sec def. Convention would have stated that Miller should have had a destroyer named after him long ago. Edited January 20, 2020 by Historian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricordo Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Historian said: I had the same thought. Normally these things are named after presidents and sometimes sec. nav. or sec def. Convention would have stated that Miller should have had a destroyer named after him long ago. A frigate in 1973. But we have an unconventional President. That being said, I'm partial about cooks of all varieties. My first thought when reading the story was, "what a wonderful way of celebrating a new class of warship that might turn out to be one of the most environmentally-friendly out there under the Green New Deal". (insert sarcasm emoji here) I'm all for it. And very happy to have known about Mr. Miller. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ricordo said: A frigate in 1973. But we have an unconventional President. That being said, I'm partial about cooks of all varieties. My first thought when reading the story was, "what a wonderful way of celebrating a new class of warship that might turn out to be one of the most environmentally-friendly out there under the Green New Deal". (insert sarcasm emoji here) I'm all for it. And very happy to have known about Mr. Miller. Miller holds a special place In history. Hell of a man. Wonder if he has any relatives who can christen the ship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricordo Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Historian said: Wonder if he has any relatives who can christen the ship. Good point, Sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ricordo said: Good point, Sir. Sadly he was lost when an aircraft carrier he was serving on was torpedoed during the war, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Fnfalman said: Battleships were named after the Great States. I think some of th submarines are now named after the States. I think that was the idea but the Navy is ever in transition on that sort of thing, so it's kinda weird. The boomers are all named after states (Ohio class) and the attack subs were named after cities (Los Angeles class), but now the Navy is naming attack subs after states too. With the next class of SSBNs named after cities I think. It's confusing, man. Edited January 20, 2020 by SC Tiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 16 hours ago, blueiron said: The Navy has thrown out the tradition of naming ships. Once upon a time, the Navy was very traditional, but no longer and that's rather sad. While SC/3 Miller deserves honors and accolades for his actions, I don't believe that CVN class ships should be named after Presidents, office holders, or individuals. They aren't even named after States of the Union. I don't know that they should be named after politicians or anyone still alive. GHWB would be an exception since he was a naval aviator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 18 hours ago, Fnfalman said: Better than naming the ship after Clinton or Obama. If you named it after Clinton, none of the female sailors would be safe...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fnfalman Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 6 hours ago, SC Tiger said: If you named it after Clinton, none of the female sailors would be safe...... True. Not even the fat, ugly ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, SC Tiger said: I don't know that they should be named after politicians or anyone still alive. GHWB would be an exception since he was a naval aviator. USS Jimmy Carter is likely the most advanced submarine anywhere in the world as a Seal Wolf class. She was named after him as a president but also because he was a submarine man. Miller looked like a man who needed to be a sailor. Dang sure i wouldn't pick a fight with him on shore leave and would be happy the tossing punches along his side. As long as i end up in the brig with an unexplained but well done and placed tattoo. A man has to have his standards. Edited January 21, 2020 by Historian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Historian said: USS Jimmy Carter is likely the most advanced submarine anywhere in the world as a Seal Wolf class. She was named after him as a president but also because he was a submarine man. Miller looked like a man who needed to be a sailor. Dang sure i wouldn't pick a fight with him on shore leave and would be happy the tossing punches along his side. As long as i end up in the brig with an unexplained but well done and placed tattoo. A man has to have his standards. I forgot about the Jimmy Carter and definitely agree he should have something named after him, for his naval service. Crap president that he was, he is also a really good person. I would have still waited until after he's dead though. And I don't know that the Seawolf class is any more advanced than the Virginia class anymore. The Virginia class were meant to be "Seawolf Light" but they have had a lot of advancements since the class was introduced. Edited January 21, 2020 by SC Tiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Historian Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, SC Tiger said: I forgot about the Jimmy Carter and definitely agree he should have something named after him, for his naval service. Crap president that he was, he is also a really good person. I would still wait until after he's dead though. And I don't know that the Seawolf class is any more advanced than the Virginia class anymore. The Virginia class were meant to be "Seawolf Light" but they have had a lot of advancements since the class was introduced. I wasn't in the silent service so i can only speculate based on what i read that the Wolf series was a hell of a boat. Carter was hand picked by the Adm. who started the US Navy's nuclear navy program. He would have been a flag officer had he not left to take over the family business. Apparently, Carter's brother drove it into the ground...and he turned it around. When people say he was a peanut farmer they don't realize he was one of the biggest farmers in all of Georgia. I didn't care for him as a president. But i always thought he had a future in places other that politics. In fact, he still teaches Sunday School. I'd sit in for a lesson with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Historian said: I wasn't in the silent service so i can only speculate based on what i read that the Wolf series was a hell of a boat. Carter was hand picked by the Adm. who started the US Navy's nuclear navy program. He would have been a flag officer had he not left to take over the family business. Apparently, Carter's brother drove it into the ground...and he turned it around. When people say he was a peanut farmer they don't realize he was one of the biggest farmers in all of Georgia. I didn't care for him as a president. But i always thought he had a future in places other that politics. In fact, he still teaches Sunday School. I'd sit in for a lesson with him. I wasn't in the military. I just have piles of useless knowledge in my head. Not just any Admiral - Admiral Hyman G. Rickover. The Father of the Nuclear navy. Dude was a legend, and is the main reason the Navy has had such a great safety record with Nuclear power. He was unyielding on safety standards. Funny bit on the Virginia class - this is what they use to control the periscope: Yes - that's a video game controller - specifically for an Xbox 360. https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16333376/us-navy-military-xbox-360-controller Replaced a $38,000 controller with one that they can get at Gamestop for around $45 I think. Edited January 21, 2020 by SC Tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 hours ago, SC Tiger said: I wasn't in the military. I just have piles of useless knowledge in my head. Not just any Admiral - Admiral Hyman G. Rickover. The Father of the Nuclear navy. Dude was a legend, and is the main reason the Navy has had such a great safety record with Nuclear power. He was unyielding on safety standards. Funny bit on the Virginia class - this is what they use to control the periscope: Yes - that's a video game controller - specifically for an Xbox 360. https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16333376/us-navy-military-xbox-360-controller Replaced a $38,000 controller with one that they can get at Gamestop for around $45 I think. I was around during the proposals for the "Photonic Mast" on the latest Submarines.. This was a mast that held a multitude of video cameras of different wavelength responses, connected through the hull with an optical fiber and an optical rotary joint. This joint is a marvel in itself). The advantage of a Photonic Mast is that, where the Submarine once had two holes through the pressure hull of up to a foot or two in diameter, it now could have a hole through the pressure hull of an inch or two. Again, the advantage of the small hole through the pressure hull of a submarine is that they now can go to considerably deeper depths. The primary limit on a submarine's depth today, is the very large holes in the pressure hull, to accommodate an optical periscope. (two at least, for redundancy). So you can see the immediate advantage to the Photonic Mast technology! It's the significant OPERATING DEPTH INCREASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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