SC Tiger Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Looks like Indycar has decided to add a windscreen to their cars for 2020. Supposedly the thing is strong as hell and will protect the driver from flying debris. It's similar to the F1 halo. https://www.foxnews.com/auto/drivers-say-indycars-new-aeroscreen-safety-device-is-ready-to-race Some people are complaining about how it makes the car look. IMO that takes a backseat to safety and in a year or two it will just look like part of the car. I think this is it: It's a bit goofy looking but if it works, it works. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I would think it helps the aerodynamics . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsNest465 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Not likely with all the increased frontal area. Kinda conflicted on this, making the cars as safe as possible is a good idea, but part of me also says things are just getting silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, OwlsNest465 said: Not likely with all the increased frontal area. Kinda conflicted on this, making the cars as safe as possible is a good idea, but part of me also says things are just getting silly. Ever see some of the strange front ends that the F1 cars ran a few years ago: Honestly, I'd be a bit nervous with one of these behind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Stick Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Looks stupid. Are they having an issue with drivers getting hit with debris, or is this just in the name of safety? racing isn’t safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 16 hours ago, AK_Stick said: Looks stupid. Are they having an issue with drivers getting hit with debris, or is this just in the name of safety? racing isn’t safe. They had a driver killed in 2011 (Former Indy 500 winner Dan Wheldon) and another one killed by flying debris (Justin Wilson) in 2015. F1 also lost a couple of drivers to head injuries, which is why they have the Halo now. If the sport can be made safer, why not do it? All motorsports make improvements in the name of safety. NASCAR redesigned the entire car around it. As the tech is developed further it will be better, stronger, better integrated into the design, and better looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Bubble canopy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK_Stick Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 hours ago, SC Tiger said: They had a driver killed in 2011 (Former Indy 500 winner Dan Wheldon) and another one killed by flying debris (Justin Wilson) in 2015. F1 also lost a couple of drivers to head injuries, which is why they have the Halo now. If the sport can be made safer, why not do it? All motorsports make improvements in the name of safety. NASCAR redesigned the entire car around it. As the tech is developed further it will be better, stronger, better integrated into the design, and better looking. Racing isn’t safe. The car of tomorrow also drove people away from NASCAR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bish1309 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Are we sure the Pope didn't have some influence on design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, AK_Stick said: Racing isn’t safe. The car of tomorrow also drove people away from NASCAR. It never will be. But you do what you can. The CoT was a disaster but it wasn't the safety improvements. It was the fact that they all looked alike, looked nothing like a street car, and were designed to eliminate the "aero push" - which they actually made worse. They could have had the safety improvements without that (or at least most of them). Plus the biggest safety improvement Nascar has made has been the "Soft Wall" tech, followed by the HANS device being mandatory. The only people who don't like - or at least understand - the safety upgrades are the ones who watch for the wrecks. Edited October 4, 2019 by SC Tiger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, OwlsNest465 said: Not likely with all the increased frontal area. Kinda conflicted on this, making the cars as safe as possible is a good idea, but part of me also says things are just getting silly. I suspect that as it gets developed it will be better. But they had to get something workable finished in time to be able to deliver them for next year. There was a picture of another one in the article that looked a lot better: This may have been the original prototype. If they can get it more like this, they will be better off. Drivers are also saying they can hear inside the cockpit a lot better now. ETA - per an article on Indycar.com it appears the windscreen will look more like the one above and below: https://www.indycar.com/News/2019/10/10-02-Cavin-Aeroscreen Edited October 4, 2019 by SC Tiger 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC Tiger Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bish1309 said: Are we sure the Pope didn't have some influence on design? His hat would get sucked into the air intake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlsNest465 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I suspect that as it gets developed it will be better. But they had to get something workable finished in time to be able to deliver them for next year. There was a picture of another one in the article that looked a lot better: This may have been the original prototype. If they can get it more like this, they will be better off. Drivers are also saying they can hear inside the cockpit a lot better now. ETA - per an article on Indycar.com it appears the windscreen will look more like the one above and below: https://www.indycar.com/News/2019/10/10-02-Cavin-AeroscreenNo doubt they will make it as slippery as possible within the rules.That does look a lot better to my non-aerodynamicist eyes.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrB Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 It's been all downhill since these days. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, DrB said: It's been all downhill since these days. "Dang! I gotta get a windscreen before next week!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Motorcycle chariot racing. The effect is damaged by the motorscooters following. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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