What do they have on Sessions?

[fortyofforty]

By all accounts, Jeff Sessions is a decent man, a fair man.  Surely he can see all the evidence swirling around the corrupt Clinton campaign and Obama Administration, her emails, the dossier, the coup, and the spying on an opposition political campaign.  Yet, he refuses to appoint a Special Counsel to look into these matters.  Why?  Why the reluctance?  Does someone have something on Sessions?  Was there something in his FBI file that the Clintons got, years ago, that allowed them to blackmail their opponents?  I don't know that Sessions' had an FBI file back then, but somebody has something on him.  Either that or he suffered a stroke.

Edited September 15, 2018 by fortyofforty

[steve4102]

Some say he is the “Silent Assassin”  and that he and Huber are working behind the scenes.

Some say they have over 50,000 sealed indictments.

Some say the feud between Sessions and Trump is all an act to get the media to support Sessions.

Some say Sessions is heading the resistance and the insurance plan to remove President Trump.

Some say he is over his head and is just a Rosenstien puppet.

Some say...

[Will Beararms]

He’s a career politico———-a swamp animal. 

[sdsnet]

Sessions was an early plant by the leaders of the swamp.

[Dric902]

He is trying to not turn the DoJ into the same shithole that Holder and Lynch did.

imdependant council is just that, not prosecute politics. No interviews discussing how the left hates life in general.

do Justice stuff, not the Presidents shield, not the talking head of the dept, not spinning, not protecting, not defending, not yes man.

you know........the judicial system the way it’s supposed to be.

When the only time you even knew who the AG was.....was if you were a criminal.

i understand in the are of Trump, many think he should be tweeting stuff about Hillary and witch hunts and firing Mueller because he is going after The Trump so he must be protected from any and all criticism regardless of evidence or lack of evidence.....just cause...loyalty and stuff.

the DoJ isn’t the Mafia, truth and justice are important.

Loyalty to a President is not supposed to be a factor.

 

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[steve4102]

31 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

Loyalty to a President is not supposed to be a factor.

So you think Sessions investigating, Uranium One, FISA abuse, FBI mishandling of the Cinton email scandal, the Cinton Foundation pay-to-play, investigating individuals in the FBI for abuse of power, allowing the DOJ to illegal ignore Congressional Subpoenas and obstructing a Congressional investigation is “the judicial system the way it is supposed to be”.

sounds like you think the Obama-Holder-Lynch DOJ, is “ the way it is supposed to be”.

 

From you this is not surprising in the least.

Edited September 15, 2018 by steve4102

[refugeepj]

33 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

Loyalty to a President is not supposed to be a factor.

loyalty to America IS supposed to be a factor.

he has a job to do, and it would seem, for whatever reason, he is neglecting his duty.

[Dric902]

14 minutes ago, steve4102 said:

So think Sessions investigating, Uranium One, FISA abuse, FBI mishandling of the Cinton email scandal, the Cinton Foundation pay-to-play, investigating individuals in the FBI for abuse of power, allowing the DOJ to illegal ignore Congressional Subpoenas and obstructing a Congressional investigation is “the judicial system the way it is supposed to be”.

sounds like you think the Obama-Holder-Lynch DOJ, is “ the way it is supposed to be”.

 

From you this is not surprising in the least.

Political bullshit is not criminal. Political talking points about actions of political opponents are not criminal.

uranium one was, unfortunately, completely within the authority of the office. Pay to play was a talking point, illegally ignoring congressional subpeonas and resulted in the AG being held in contempt, unfortunately that’s the limit of what could be done.

i know it sounds good too get revenge on political opponents. All the talking heads accusations sound great coming from the talk shows and radio shows. But they aren’t prosecutable or provable in court. Hannity/Rush/Etc pronouncements of “of course” “we know” “this is ansolute proof” 

and remember when a media personality proclaims from the flat screen “this is a violation of ______” isn’t actually evidence of anything/

 

ok, look.

your the president....are you going to appoint an AG that follows the law and returns the dept to what it was for a couple centuries before 2008....or do you want. “Your Guy” in the legal department to cover your ass and prosecute your enemies.

talking points aren’t evidence, political accusations are not prosecutable, media commentators........are full of **** for the most part legally. 

The vast majority of the base has absolutely no idea what is actually real and what is political spin. Been that way since at least ‘92 and getting worse.

there...is....no...actionable.....evidence.....of....any....of .....the .....political campaign bullshit......you....are....talking about.

 

can we please have adults run the country again?

 

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[Dric902]

8 minutes ago, refugeepj said:

loyalty to America IS supposed to be a factor.

he has a job to do, and it would seem, for whatever reason, he is neglecting his duty.

Loyalty to America is. Loyalty to the word of law is (not the popular talking point of law, the word of law)

loyalty to the president who appointed you is not (to the exclusion of the law, or the prosecution of enemies)

we don’t have a mafia Don for executive.

 

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Edited September 15, 2018 by Dric902

[fortyofforty]

3 hours ago, Dric902 said:

He is trying to not turn the DoJ into the same shithole that Holder and Lynch did.

imdependant council is just that, not prosecute politics. No interviews discussing how the left hates life in general.

do Justice stuff, not the Presidents shield, not the talking head of the dept, not spinning, not protecting, not defending, not yes man.

you know........the judicial system the way it’s supposed to be.

When the only time you even knew who the AG was.....was if you were a criminal.

i understand in the are of Trump, many think he should be tweeting stuff about Hillary and witch hunts and firing Mueller because he is going after The Trump so he must be protected from any and all criticism regardless of evidence or lack of evidence.....just cause...loyalty and stuff.

the DoJ isn’t the Mafia, truth and justice are important.

Loyalty to a President is not supposed to be a factor.

 

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This is nonsense.  Appoint an INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.  The key is "independent".  Follow the trail.  At least follow it.  If it leads nowhere, drop it.  But, for now, we know for a 100% fact that Hillary Clinton arranged for tens of thousands of emails under official, Congressional subpoena, to be deleted, then electronically scrubbed.  We know for a 100% fact that several emails were discovered through other sources that were directly related to official government business and were not turned over by Clinton, in violation of the law.  We also know for certain that Hillary Clinton was grossly negligent with classified material while Secretary of State.  We know too that the Clinton campaign funneled campaign money through a law firm, not declared for political purposes, that was spent on developing a dossier filled with anti-Trump material, and that this dossier was prepared by Fusion GPS, for whom Nellie Ohr worked.  We know that Nellie Ohr is married to Bruce Ohr, third highest ranking member of the Department of Justice, and that text messages show Ohr and Page and Steele and Strzok were working behind the scenes to influence a presidential election, then overturn the results after the election was held.

All I want--all ANYONE--should want is for these and other related crimes to be looked into by impartial investigators, not politically charged FBI and DOJ "I'm with her" loyalists.  An Independent Counsel is the only fair way for this to happen.  Do you trust Mueller (with his connections to Comey)?  Do you trust anyone currently in the upper echelon of the FBI or DOJ to have the resources and intestinal fortitude to do it?  I don't see it happening, and I see the play clock running out.  Why should I be satisfied?

"But of course" it was looked at, and "you just know" Comey and Strzok and Page and McCabe were fair isn't good enough for me.  Investigate.  Clearly the DOJ and FBI are riddled with political operatives.  Get an Independent Counsel to work.

Edited September 15, 2018 by fortyofforty

[Dric902]

When did the base lose its memory or it’s intelligence

’But, for now, we know for a 100% fact ‘

We know for a 100% fact 

We also know for certain 

We know too that

We “know” exactly nothing but what we have been told by pundits, that’s not admissible in any court.

politically charged FBI and DOJ "I'm with her" loyalists

great applause line, too bad it doesn’t mean anything

 

We know that Nellie Ohr is married to Bruce Ohr,

well, you got me there

 

having a political opinion, belonging to a party, does not mean that you let your political leanings influence your job performance or your completion of your duties.

it may....but you have to prove that in other than “we know” evidence.

 

when its “them” we want them investigated/charged/convicted/ and wood chippered on the world of the commentator with the highest ratings

when it’s ‘us” we required absolute, ironclad, concrete proof of anything and everything to our, By God, satisfaction. And if there is any........then mercy.

 

public political opinion is not 100% anything but spin and mostly bullshit on both sides

 

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[Glocks4Freedom]

6 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

When did the base lose its memory or it’s intelligence

’But, for now, we know for a 100% fact ‘

We know for a 100% fact 

We also know for certain 

We know too that

We “know” exactly nothing but what we have been told by pundits, that’s not admissible in any court.

politically charged FBI and DOJ "I'm with her" loyalists

great applause line, too bad it doesn’t mean anything

 

We know that Nellie Ohr is married to Bruce Ohr,

well, you got me there

 

having a political opinion, belonging to a party, does not mean that you let your political leanings influence your job performance or your completion of your duties.

it may....but you have to prove that in other than “we know” evidence.

 

when its “them” we want them investigated/charged/convicted/ and wood chippered on the world of the commentator with the highest ratings

when it’s ‘us” we required absolute, ironclad, concrete proof of anything and everything to our, By God, satisfaction. And if there is any........then mercy.

 

public political opinion is not 100% anything but spin and mostly bullshit on both sides

 

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Yeah, and we *know* for sure there was Russian Collusion in the election. We have *enough* evidence to justify a multimillion-dollar special counsel investigation going on. 

 

[Dric902]

4 minutes ago, Glocks4Freedom said:

Yeah, and we *know* for sure there was Russian Collusion in the election. We have *enough* evidence to justify a multimillion-dollar special counsel investigation going on. 

 

Ah, see there’s the rub isn’t it

a multi million dollar investigation that is completely and though and through.....political. Just like all the others have been.

when was the last time a special council investigation actually charged anyone with what the investigation was started for.

you get mid to low level people charged and pleading to “lying to investigators” or some other nothing charge for political sound bites on the “upcoming BIG ONE” that never materializes.

until the election or until the poll numbers of the relevant base have shifted.

 

thats why the AG is supposed to stay out of it. It has less than nothing to do with Justice.

everything to do with media sound bites, campaign ads, polling numbers, etc

independent special councils are the cheapest political ads ever. And that’s all they have ever been, and all they will ever be.

 

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[fortyofforty]

I suppose you don't take Congressional testimony under oath to be anything more than being told something by "pundits".

You are ignorant.  You need to read a bit more, and not feel so smug in what you think you "know".  Remaining neutral in the face of incontrovertible evidence is idiocy, not wisdom.

[fortyofforty]

If  you think Independent Counsels are only cheap political ads, try telling that to those who've gone to prison and lost everything after being investigated, charged and convicted.  Again, we get a big dose of ignorance mixed with certainty, here.

[Dric902]

3 minutes ago, fortyofforty said:

If  you think Independent Counsels are only cheap political ads, try telling that to those who've gone to prison and lost everything after being investigated, charged and convicted.  Again, we get a big dose of ignorance mixed with certainty, here.

Name one

[fortyofforty]

Paul Manafort is the fifth by this particular Special Counsel to plead guilty.  He was in solitary awaiting trial.  Michael Flynn was financially ruined, pleaded guilty under duress, and is still awaiting sentencing.  The investigation hasn't reached the sentencing stage for most of the defendants, because things take time.  It's time consuming to provide the education your schools failed to provide, but you really can search for this information.

Not one person involved in Hillary's corruption has even been indicted.  Why not?  Because you Democrats all stick together.

If you want to go back to previous Independent Counsels, we had a President impeached, which I consider pretty serious, but your Democrat allies in the Senate failed to convict.

[Boogieman]

6 hours ago, Dric902 said:

He is trying to not turn the DoJ into the same shithole that Holder and Lynch did.

imdependant council is just that, not prosecute politics. No interviews discussing how the left hates life in general.

do Justice stuff, not the Presidents shield, not the talking head of the dept, not spinning, not protecting, not defending, not yes man.

you know........the judicial system the way it’s supposed to be.

When the only time you even knew who the AG was.....was if you were a criminal.

i understand in the are of Trump, many think he should be tweeting stuff about Hillary and witch hunts and firing Mueller because he is going after The Trump so he must be protected from any and all criticism regardless of evidence or lack of evidence.....just cause...loyalty and stuff.

the DoJ isn’t the Mafia, truth and justice are important.

Loyalty to a President is not supposed to be a factor.

 

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Of course the three time Sessions lied under oath shouldn't me mentioned...because reasons...and stuff?

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/11/3-times-jeff-sessions-made-false-statements-to-congress-under-oath/

Oh...and here's where he admits that he lied...because he forgot...because reasons...and stuff.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-14/sessions-says-he-s-never-lied-about-russia-trump-connections

Edited September 15, 2018 by Boogieman

[fortyofforty]

Do you believe the investigation into Hillary Clinton was fair and impartial?  That's the real question.  If you believe that it was, the discussion is over.  There is no point, as you bury your head and refuse to review the evidence available.

[fortyofforty]

I love the circular reasoning:

nothing will ever happen to Clinton because we won't have a Special Counsel to investigate Clinton because nothing will ever happen to Clinton because we won't have a Special Counsel to investigate Clinton because nothing will ever happen to Clinton because . . . 

[Glocks4Freedom]

34 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

Name one

Troll. Just a ******* liberal Troll.

And a hero wannabe ...

[Boogieman]

4 minutes ago, Glocks4Freedom said:

Troll. Just a ******* liberal Troll.

And a hero wannabe ...

As we have seen in the past, when you do name one Dric902 will substitute your truth for his leftist alternate reality.

Edited September 15, 2018 by Boogieman

[Dric902]

38 minutes ago, Glocks4Freedom said:

Troll. Just a ****ing liberal Troll.

And a hero wannabe ...

I don’t remember that one

Ollie went to prison for a while, now he makes a hundred times what he did before and is a hero of the right

Scooter spent a few months in a country club jail till the end of the administration gave him a pardon. Now his speaking fees are huge.

 

rules of evidence are a real bitch......till you’re the one needing them

 

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Edited September 15, 2018 by Dric902

[Dric902]

I see the children have arrived.

 

maybe we could just scrap the entire justice system and the winner of the presidency jails everybody else.

 

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[Boogieman]

4 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

I see the children have arrived..