New Study Confirms: PC Is Killing the USN

[Gunboat1]

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"One respondent recalled that he had informed his admiral: 'I've got people that I know for certain are not proficient in watch standing.' And you know what they [told] me? 'Qualify them anyway.' "

Just as I have been saying for years:  Political correctness is destroying the US Navy's ability to perform its mission.  The idiocy of females integrated into combatant ship crews, Critical Race Theory and Diversity Above All Else must be rooted out, and the entire officer corps needs a thorough weeding of the incompetent and the Diversity poster children.  The time is coming when our fleet may have to fight a credible enemy.  The slavish pursuit of PC may lose us the next war if we don't act soon to obliterate it. 

[crockett]

That raccccciiissssss! Or whatever.

[tous]

Do you suggest that this sort of nonsense is new, amigo?

I served as a SWO from 1972 to 1978 after NRTOC in college, mostly on what are now classed destroyer escorts or frigates; 2000 tons and below.

I actually wanted the small, fast ships rather than the glamorous carriers, cruisers and submarines.

I served three tours (they call them deployments now)  with the Gulf of Tonkin Yacht Club -- better known as Yankee Station in the Tonkin Gulf, Vietnam, Republic of.

The basic mission was anti-submarine warfare with a few missions to fire at shore targets with our 5-inch mount, but our primary mission was act as a screen for the big boys of TF 77. Better to lose a 20-year-old, 2000 ton destroyer than an aircraft carrier or the New Jersey.  We also took turns with the bazillion other fleet escort  ships interdicting small craft that steamed too close to the gray ships.  The North Vietnamese didn't have any submarines; they basically had no navy.  We were basically a test-bed for when the Cold War became hot.

I managed to get to O-3 in six years and looked forward to a full career in the Navy.  I enjoyed being at sea and truly liked and respected my shipmates; most of them.

The Navy did not draft during Vietnam.  We were all volunteers.  Yes, we had actual Negroes in the crew, some of the finest men it was my honor to know.  To my knowledge, they were treated like everyone else in the Navy.  Yes, we had the occasional Southron big mouth, fake-Klansman, but they didn't last long.  We didn't tolerate bigotry.  You were my shipmate, regardless of race and I was honored to serve with you as long as you did your job.  I am sure that I served with homosexuals, but they did their jobs and respected their shipmates and I suggest that most of us then couldn't have cared less who they went to bed with.

After the fall of Saigon and the election of Jimma Carter, the US military was not just downsized, it was massacred.  No funding, ships and aircraft de-commissioned and mothballed, not to mention that we did not wear our uniforms off base -- ever.  You would be attacked by hippies and communists and the locals would give you the evil eye  regardless of what port you were in.  I was never sure if they hated us because we fought in the Vietnam War or because we lost the Vietnam War -- probably some of both.  The US basically ran away with our tail tucked between our legs. 

It was not the fault of one serving officer or rating.  We could have won, should have  won -- we were not allowed to win.

Morale was at rock-bottom; many ratings were doing drugs and not a few officers became drunks.

Billets became harder and harder to find and around 1978, my detailer told me that he had no billet for me.  O5s were taking billets that 02s and 03s were on the TOE for,  I was one of a bazillion Lieutenants that wanted the 17 billets available.  My Naval career was over.  I could have stuck it out, taken any billet I could get, but by then I had a family to think of.  I hired on at McDonnell Douglas and spent the next 20 years there.

It took 20 years to repair that damage.

I am not sure that this damage can ever be repaired.

I mourn for my Navy, the way it used to be.

[Gunboat1]

6 hours ago, tous said:

Do you suggest that this sort of nonsense is new, amigo?

I served as a SWO from 1972 to 1978 after NRTOC in college, mostly on what are now classed destroyer escorts or frigates; 2000 tons and below.

I actually wanted the small, fast ships rather than the glamorous carriers, cruisers and submarines.

I served three tours (they call them deployments now)  with the Gulf of Tonkin Yacht Club -- better known as Yankee Station in the Tonkin Gulf, Vietnam, Republic of.

The basic mission was anti-submarine warfare with a few missions to fire at shore targets with our 5-inch mount, but our primary mission was act as a screen for the big boys of TF 77. Better to lose a 20-year-old, 2000 ton destroyer than an aircraft carrier or the New Jersey.  We also took turns with the bazillion other fleet escort  ships interdicting small craft that steamed too close to the gray ships.  The North Vietnamese didn't have any submarines; they basically had no navy.  We were basically a test-bed for when the Cold War became hot.

I managed to get to O-3 in six years and looked forward to a full career in the Navy.  I enjoyed being at sea and truly liked and respected my shipmates; most of them.

The Navy did not draft during Vietnam.  We were all volunteers.  Yes, we had actual Negroes in the crew, some of the finest men it was my honor to know.  To my knowledge, they were treated like everyone else in the Navy.  Yes, we had the occasional Southron big mouth, fake-Klansman, but they didn't last long.  We didn't tolerate bigotry.  You were my shipmate, regardless of race and I was honored to serve with you as long as you did your job.  I am sure that I served with homosexuals, but they did their jobs and respected their shipmates and I suggest that most of us then couldn't have cared less who they went to bed with.

After the fall of Saigon and the election of Jimma Carter, the US military was not just downsized, it was massacred.  No funding, ships and aircraft de-commissioned and mothballed, not to mention that we did not wear our uniforms off base -- ever.  You would be attacked by hippies and communists and the locals would give you the evil eye  regardless of what port you were in.  I was never sure if they hated us because we fought in the Vietnam War or because we lost the Vietnam War -- probably some of both.  The US basically ran away with our tail tucked between our legs. 

It was not the fault of one serving officer or rating.  We could have won, should have  won -- we were not allowed to win.

Morale was at rock-bottom; many ratings were doing drugs and not a few officers became drunks.

Billets became harder and harder to find and around 1978, my detailer told me that he had no billet for me.  O5s were taking billets that 02s and 03s were on the TOE for,  I was one of a bazillion Lieutenants that wanted the 17 billets available.  My Naval career was over.  I could have stuck it out, taken any billet I could get, but by then I had a family to think of.  I hired on at McDonnell Douglas and spent the next 20 years there.

It took 20 years to repair that damage.

I am not sure that this damage can ever be repaired.

I mourn for my Navy, the way it used to be.

No, not new, but increasingly endemic.  Dysfunction is the norm in today's Navy, and PC is the main cause.  It's going to take a ruthless restructuring to fix it.  Time grows short.

[Gunboat1]

8 hours ago, Gunboat1 said:

 

 

[tous]

33 minutes ago, Gunboat1 said:

No, not new, but increasingly endemic.  Dysfunction is the norm in today's Navy, and PC is the main cause.  It's going to take a ruthless restructuring to fix it.  Time grows short.

I hate to be a cynic, but time is up and has been for the past 20 years.

During Vietnam we had flag officers that had come up during World War II and Korea.  They were Navy men.

After Vietnam, we have flag officers whose sole purpose it seemed was to get promoted, retire and get that cushy job with a defense contractor or Washington, D.C. think tank.

Those goals required total subservience to the professional liars and the swamp creatures.  That has gotten worse.

You know well that nearly everything in the Navy, especially on board a ship, is doing its best to kill you if you aren't paying attention and you don't have the training.

And people wonder why Navy ships keep ruuning into things in ports around the world.

I can imagine a time when a captain will secure from general quarters so that the crew can attend a Critical Race Theory lecture and they hope they can get through it before the opposing force sinks their ass.

 

[tous]

28 minutes ago, Gunboat1 said:

 

We didn't have females aboard.  That was still a few years away.

I did serve with female yeomen, nurses and various other shore duties.

To me they were just sailors, due the same courtesy and respect as those with button fly pants.

[Gunboat1]

11 hours ago, Gunboat1 said:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3975755/posts

"One respondent recalled that he had informed his admiral: 'I've got people that I know for certain are not proficient in watch standing.' And you know what they [told] me? 'Qualify them anyway.' "

Just as I have been saying for years:  Political correctness is destroying the US Navy's ability to perform its mission.  The idiocy of females integrated into combatant ship crews, Critical Race Theory and Diversity Above All Else must be rooted out, and the entire officer corps needs a thorough weeding of the incompetent and the Diversity poster children.  The time is coming when our fleet may have to fight a credible enemy.  The slavish pursuit of PC may lose us the next war if we don't act soon to obliterate it.