Dric902 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, berto62 said: what he's doing now is not defending the Border it's a midterm dog and pony show ⬆️ While I hate to agree with him, it’s becoming more and more apparent that he is correct 3 minutes ago, gwalchmai said: But the cartoon you posted specified "brown people", to imply racism on Trump's part. If the caravan were made up of white people would you still be as indignant? You cannot have someone who is described as “telling it like it is” “talking tough” “saying what needs to be said” and follow up with “what he meant was” he has used Hispanic terms for criminal behavior to describe the caravan. If you like that, or agree, or want to justify it...then own it. i have yet to hear ISIS members referred to as “Bad Hombres” dont follow up with....”well, he meant everybody” . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Dric902 said: ⬆️ While I hate to agree with him, it’s becoming more and more apparent that he is correct You cannot have someone who is described as “telling it like it is” “talking tough” “saying what needs to be said” and follow up with “what he meant was” he has used Hispanic terms for criminal behavior to describe the caravan. If you like that, or agree, or want to justify it...then own it. i have yet to hear ISIS members referred to as “Bad Hombres” dont follow up with....”well, he meant everybody” . Unless Trump specifically said "The brown people are coming" the cartoonist should have captioned Trump saying "The Hondurans are coming" to be consistent with Revere. Otherwise it's a smear, IMO. If Trump really said that then I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerford Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 7 hours ago, berto62 said: It is an incredibly racist of the cartoonist to assume that people coming from Honduras are brown. Maybe it is only the white ones that are being oppressed or threatening. Of course the issue isn't what color they are, it is about their attempt to invade our country. Their coming here illegally. If it were about asylum, they would stop in the first country out of their country and request asylum, or maybe Mexico. Is Mexico a threat to their safety? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, gwalchmai said: Unless Trump specifically said "The brown people are coming" the cartoonist should have captioned Trump saying "The Hondurans are coming" to be consistent with Revere. Otherwise it's a smear, IMO. If Trump really said that then I stand corrected. Revere didn’t say “the British are coming” he said “the Regulars are coming” the people he was warning were British, it would have been silly to warn them that they were coming. but you have to admit that Trump has and continues to use inflammatory language in order to promote a reaction. . Edited November 4, 2018 by Dric902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dric902 said: Revere didn’t say “the British are coming” he said “the Regulars are coming” the people he was warning were British, it would have been silly to warn them that they were coming. but you have to admit that Trump has and continues to use inflammatory language in order to promote a reaction. . Really? I'd always heard British. No, come to think, it was Redcoats. I'll admit to the language, yes, but I think the racist angle is a bit much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berto62 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, racerford said: It is an incredibly racist of the cartoonist to assume that people coming from Honduras are brown. Maybe it is only the white ones that are being oppressed or threatening. Of course the issue isn't what color they are, it is about their attempt to invade our country. Their coming here illegally. If it were about asylum, they would stop in the first country out of their country and request asylum, or maybe Mexico. Is Mexico a threat to their safety? Except there is no law that forces asylum seekers to apply at the first country they enter. Law simply states they have to have left their country, be in the US or at a port of entry to apply, and apply within a year of arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tehan2 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, berto62 said: Except there is no law that forces asylum seekers to apply at the first country they enter. Law simply states they have to have left their country, be in the US or at a port of entry to apply, and apply within a year of arrival. except if we are using the UN standard for asylum, ( which I believe\ is the only agreement we have to take asylum seekers) both the "Dublin Regulation" and UNHHCR's standard principle is that seekers are to accept asylum in the first country they reach. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Regulation http://www.unhcr.org/en-us/protection/basic/3b66c2aa10/convention-protocol-relating-status-refugees.html Edited November 5, 2018 by tehan2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Hawk Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Dric902 said: two words: “bad hombres.” says if elected he will deport bad drug dealers and ‘bad hombres’. Donald Trump Calls Out ‘Bad Hombres’ Trump says 'bad hombre' and memes are born saying that he wanted to get the "bad hombres" out of the United States You wouldn’t believe how bad these people are,” he said. “These aren’t people. These are animals.” im sure he meant “white people” . He was speaking specifically of MS-13. You know, that nice group of young men who make a rattlesnake in a blind look like a nice furry kitten? Hawk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pipedreams Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) Notice the gun in the guys belt. https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1052629557826736129 Edited November 5, 2018 by pipedreams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_Hallbert Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It is an incredibly racist of the cartoonist to assume that people coming from Honduras are brown. Maybe it is only the white ones that are being oppressed or threatening. Of course the issue isn't what color they are, it is about their attempt to invade our country. Their coming here illegally. If it were about asylum, they would stop in the first country out of their country and request asylum, or maybe Mexico. Is Mexico a threat to their safety?The clown that put this annoying meme together is perpetuating the strategic narrative developed by the DNC in collusion with Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Staff. Truth and reality are irrelevant to these people. Their intent is to stir up anger and resentment and to channel it to influence political elections. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelharp Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 (edited) ...... Edited November 5, 2018 by Steelharp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dric902 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Brown Hawk said: He was speaking specifically of MS-13. You know, that nice group of young men who make a rattlesnake in a blind look like a nice furry kitten? Hawk That’s fine, then own it. not come back later and tell me that he “really meant” something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berto62 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 8 hours ago, C_Hallbert said: Truth and reality are irrelevant to these people. Their intent is to stir up anger and resentment and to channel it to influence political elections. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sounds exactly like Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Hawk Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Dric902 said: That’s fine, then own it. not come back later and tell me that he “really meant” something else. If you prove me wrong, I will admit it, here, in front of everyone, as I have done before, here, in front of everyone. But I listened to the full statement, uncut. Unfortunately, where anyone on the right is concerned, you have to dig down and find the original statement and context. You know, like a free press is supposed to do. So I will repeat my statement. Your and my President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, was referring to the MS-13 gang with that “animal” statement. Hawk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 13 hours ago, Dric902 said: ⬆️ i have yet to hear ISIS members referred to as “Bad Hombres” dont follow up with....”well, he meant everybody” . If he called ISIS members "camel *******" you'd probably be mad about that, too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, gwalchmai said: If he called ISIS members "camel ****ers" you'd probably be mad about that, too... Only if somebody tried to tell me later that he meant PETA members . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Dric902 said: Only if somebody tried to tell me later that he meant PETA members . I think that would have to include PETAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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