Trump called birthright citizenship "ridiculous" and said that "it has to end."

[Dric902]

2 hours ago, Jammersix said:

I like this article: http://reason.com/blog/2018/11/19/the-military-is-securing-a-1900-mile-bor

Lots of people cheering the pics

There is so much concertina wire deployed to the southern border that if it were all stretched out from end to end, it would reach all the way from Brownsville, Texas, on the Gulf Coast to....well, whatever is 22 miles west of Brownsville, Texas.

There are photos of American troops laying razor wire(technically known as concertina wire) along the California-Mexico border. Of wire being affixed to the top of fences and to the sides of buildings. Everywhere you look on the Pentagon's site, you find wire, wire, and more wire. Photos of soldiers carrying rolls of unused wire, snapshots of forklifts bringing more of the stuff to the border, and even videos of wire being unrolled and deployed. It's thrilling stuff, truly.

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Edited November 20, 2018 by Dric902

[fortyofforty]

And once again an Obama-appointed leftist judge just screwed over President Trump.  Of course Romney=Obama and all that, but this is getting old.

[Jammersix]

11 minutes ago, fortyofforty said:

And once again an Obama-appointed leftist judge just screwed over President Trump.  Of course Romney=Obama and all that, but this is getting old.

You need to read more carefully.

It wasn't a judge, it was a unanimous decision from a three judge panel. All appointed by democratic administrations, but three is just not the same as one.

Facts. To change anything, one needs to know where one really is. It's one of the "president's" main problems.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/trump-cant-end-daca-appeals-court-says-setting-up-supreme-court-fight/2018/11/08/4a76f928-e386-11e8-ab2c-b31dcd53ca6b_story.html?utm_term=.c2b91f955089

Edited November 21, 2018 by Jammersix

[Dric902]

5 hours ago, Jammersix said:

You need to read more carefully.

It wasn't a judge, it was a unanimous decision from a three judge panel. All appointed by democratic administrations, but three is just not the same as one.

Facts. To change anything, one needs to know where one really is. It's one of the "president's" main problems.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/trump-cant-end-daca-appeals-court-says-setting-up-supreme-court-fight/2018/11/08/4a76f928-e386-11e8-ab2c-b31dcd53ca6b_story.html?utm_term=.c2b91f955089

The unanimous decision by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit makes it more likely that the Supreme Court will settle the question. The Trump administration has asked the justices to add it to the docket for this term.

 

the goal all along, we can finally put it to rest

 

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[fortyofforty]

22 hours ago, Jammersix said:

You need to read more carefully.

It wasn't a judge, it was a unanimous decision from a three judge panel. All appointed by democratic administrations, but three is just not the same as one.

Facts. To change anything, one needs to know where one really is. It's one of the "president's" main problems.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/trump-cant-end-daca-appeals-court-says-setting-up-supreme-court-fight/2018/11/08/4a76f928-e386-11e8-ab2c-b31dcd53ca6b_story.html?utm_term=.c2b91f955089

You need to understand how the process works.  The first step in screwing President Trump was taken by a judge appointed by Obama, just as I wrote.  Sorry if the facts get in the way of your narrative.  A panel reviewed what that single judge had done, but the initial step that blocked the President was one man's ruling.

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U.S. District Judge Jon S. Tigar, who was nominated by President Obama in 2012 to the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, issued a temporary restraining order late Monday against Trump's plan to refuse asylum to immigrants who cross the southern border illegally if they do not arrive at a port of entry.

 

[Moshe]

The worst words to come out of Donald Trump's mouth is that he could change the 14th Amendment by eliminating it by Executive Authority.  I don't know what clown car is advising him up there, but he does not have that authority.  It is like a Democrat President deciding he can eliminate the Second Amendment altogether because he/she feels like it.  It cost the House dearly in the Midterms.  If he had more than trust fun idiots and nepotism going on up there, they would have told him to STFU.  The Constitution guarantees birth right citizenship by being born here (Just Soli) or to two United Citizen Parents (Just Sanguinus).  This is Congress's ball and always has been.  If you have seen the Amnesties and Immigration and Nationality Acts created by law by congress, it takes the Office of Chief Counsel to untangle it all.  O.I.L. in D.C. should have given him a clue.  He has to and needs to work with congress to change the laws they created, which in turn created policy.  Now, that he opened his suck about elimination any of the Bill of Rights he sees fit like the 14th, it cost the House.

The very idea that you can disenfranchise any citizen the regime does not like makes me fear the cattle cars again.

Edited November 22, 2018 by Moshe

[steve4102]

5 hours ago, Moshe said:

The worst words to come out of Donald Trump's mouth is that he could change the 14th Amendment by eliminating it by Executive Authority.  I don't know what clown car is advising him up there, but he does not have that authority. 

Nobody said anything about changing the 14th Amendment, well except for Democrats and those that have never read it.

 

What President Trump has said he is going to do is Not change the 14th, but Uphold the 14th AS Written and as Intended.  It is members of congress that over time have gradually changed the meaning of the 14th and those with less than two brain cells left to rub together believe that "today's" interpretation is the right interpretation, similar to the idiots that think the 2nd Amendment only pertains to a "Militia".  

 

Edited November 22, 2018 by steve4102

[Moshe]

1 minute ago, steve4102 said:

Nobody said anything about changing the 14th Amendment, well except for Democrats and those that have never read it.

 

What President Trump has said he is going to do is Not change the 14th, but Uphold the 14th AS Written and as Intended.  It is members of congress that over time have gradually changed the meaning of the 14th and those with less than two brain cells left to rub together believe that "today's" interpretation is the right interpretation, similar to the idiots that think the 2nd Amendment only pertains to a "Militia".  

Funny, I watched him say over and over again that he could eliminate the 14th Amendment and let the SCOTUS sort it out.  THAT is was fried the whole midterm.  It is no different, than saying I will interpret the Second Amendment to only mean militia (of which every state even NM has one)-even Liberal NM.  When I was in Civil Air Patrol in HS we met at that armory where fully auto weapons were kept.  I knew members of the State militia.  One was a History Professor by the time I got to University.  So, I can play the Trump card the same way.  No guns for anyone except the State militia, and that is how I interpret it?   Oh, did I forget that little clause, "The Right of the People to Bear Arms Shall not be Infringed"?  Well, I am President now, and by the power I vested in myself, I will eliminate personal ownership in firearms as debatable, and let the SCOTUS sort it out.  What Trump did was no different.  He said, he wanted to eliminate anything in the 14th Amendment that granted anyone birthright citizenship on a whim.  Well, if he had gotten away with it, if I was lucky, and the next Liberal got in, I would be deported to Israel.  I am well over 25 percent Jewish after all.  It doesn't matter that I was born in the United States to a career Military citizen and a citizen mother.  Bye, bye, to Israel, you no longer have Birth Right to a country I was born in to a citizen veteran and a citizen mother.  Screw the fact that most of my Jewish lineage immigrated in the 19th Century, and 1930's.  That was fun,  because they loved to butcher names back then.  Like the guy who careered this awful OPMD gene, Leonhart Berchtold which the census changed to Leaonard, because who cares how the silly Yids called themselves anyway.

So, here comes a Jew hating liberal who says, the 1930's survey was questionable about my two Jewish relatives.  Both, fortunately, out of Germany before Hitler.   Hmm, one Bukhara Immigrant marries another Jewish woman from Hess, Germany.  Well, they were here, but we are not sure how, as the records in the census get FUBARED, because again, no one really cared what a Yid's real name is, it is the 1930'a after all.  So, no birthright citizenship for you.  Now, I am on a plane to Tel Aviv, wondering WTF?

So, trying to strip birthright citizenship from the Constitution, which exists independently of the 14th Amendment, was his dangerous gaffe.  It cost him the House.   So, the Amendment that abolishes slavery, among other issues that requires 3/4's of the House and Senate to even Amend, he thinks he can take a red maker to.  He neither has the power, nor authority.  Unless he is trying to use his base to do what Obama tried, but failed to do, take over the virtual "Reichstag."  Fortunately, no Kristallnacht for me, as I have no business at all.  Then after this, he tries to appoint "Captains" to go out and get the vote anyway they can for his next election.  Sounds rather Brown Shirt to be, and frightening.  I am all about Patriotism.  But, I took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and Domestic.  This is why I nearly turned in my badge when Obama started legislating from the Executive with DAKA, and that mess.  I agonized all night after the meeting how we were going to two the illegal line.  I came to the conclusion, as long as I was not violating anyone else's Bill of Rights I could press on.  Had I not been retired already, and I was told that we were going deport United States Citizens that President didn't like the ethnicity of, I would have threw the badge and credentials on the desk and quit.

[steve4102]

7 minutes ago, Moshe said:

Funny, I watched him say over and over again that he could eliminate the 14th Amendment and let the SCOTUS sort it out.  THAT is was fried the whole midterm.  It is no different, than saying I will interpret the Second Amendment to only mean militia (of which every state even NM has one)-even Liberal NM.  When I was in Civil Air Patrol in HS we met at that armory where fully auto weapons were kept.  I knew members of the State militia.  One was a History Professor by the time I got to University.  So, I can play the Trump card the same way.  No guns for anyone except the State militia, and that is how I interpret it?   Oh, did I forget that little clause, "The Right of the People to Bear Arms Shall not be Infringed"?  Well, I am President now, and by the power I vested in myself, I will eliminate personal ownership in firearms as debatable, and let the SCOTUS sort it out.  What Trump did was no different.  He said, he wanted to eliminate anything in the 14th Amendment that granted anyone birthright citizenship on a whim.  Well, if he had gotten away with it, if I was lucky, and the next Liberal got in, I would be deported to Israel.  I am well over 25 percent Jewish after all.  It doesn't matter that I was born in the United States to a career Military citizen and a citizen mother.  Bye, bye, to Israel, you no longer have Birth Right to a country I was born in to a citizen veteran and a citizen mother.  Screw the fact that most of my Jewish lineage immigrated in the 19th Century, and 1930's.  That was fun,  because they loved to butcher names back then.  Like the guy who careered this awful OPMD gene, Leonhart Berchtold which the census changed to Leaonard, because who cares how the silly Yids called themselves anyway.

So, here comes a Jew hating liberal who says, the 1930's survey was questionable about my two Jewish relatives.  Both, fortunately, out of Germany before Hitler.   Hmm, one Bukhara Immigrant marries another Jewish woman from Hess, Germany.  Well, they were here, but we are not sure how, as the records in the census get FUBARED, because again, no one really cared what a Yid's real name is, it is the 1930'a after all.  So, no birthright citizenship for you.  Now, I am on a plane to Tel Aviv, wondering WTF?

So, trying to strip birthright citizenship from the Constitution, which exists independently of the 14th Amendment, was his dangerous gaffe.  It cost him the House.   So, the Amendment that abolishes slavery, among other issues that requires 3/4's of the House and Senate to even Amend, he thinks he can take a red maker to.  He neither has the power, nor authority.  Unless he is trying to use his base to do what Obama tried, but failed to do, take over the virtual "Reichstag."  Fortunately, no Kristallnacht for me, as I have no business at all.  Then after this, he tries to appoint "Captains" to go out and get the vote anyway they can for his next election.  Sounds rather Brown Shirt to be, and frightening.  I am all about Patriotism.  But, I took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and Domestic.  This is why I nearly turned in my badge when Obama started legislating from the Executive with DAKA, and that mess.  I agonized all night after the meeting how we were going to two the illegal line.  I came to the conclusion, as long as I was not violating anyone else's Bill of Rights I could press on.  Had I not been retired already, and I was told that we were going deport United States Citizens that President didn't like the ethnicity of, I would have threw the badge and credentials on the desk and quit.

Wrong.

Read the 14th.

Then understand the 14th.

 

Here lemmy helps ya.

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

 

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[Moshe]

1 minute ago, steve4102 said:

Wrong.

Read the 14th.

Then understand the 14th.

What is this?  The Cult of Personality?  National Socialism?  I have read it, have you?  It expressly says in the 14th Amendment, it requires 3/4ths of the House and Senate to alter the Amendment.   Not, I really like my guy, so he can do it, if he feels like it.  All the things he is bitching about is contained by Congress by the Immigration and Nationality Act.  If every you need to sleep, pick it up.  It is longer than the whole of the Bible itself, and grants all sorts of rights to illegal aliens, by law, created by Congress.  It has jack all to do with messing with the 14th Amendment.  If you don't want illegal aliens claiming fear at a Port of Entry, and by statute being allowed to come here to give birth of a child, then you need to lean on Congress.  Nowhere in the 14th Amendment is that granted.  It is by statute, in the Immigration and Nationality Act written by Congress and passed by various Democrats and Republican Administrations.  If he wants change he was barking up the wrong tree, as usual.  Now, he will never get 3/4th of the House to agree with him on ANYTHING.  Had he said intelligent things liked, "I need to sit down with Congress and hash out Amendments to the Immigration and Nationality Act, he could have got a bill on his desk, to Amend those parts of the INA, he didn't like.  He has no idea how to be a President.  If he took a page from Reagan, he could have gotten this thing done months ago.  Then my former ICE Officers, would receive a 2018 revised INA book, and corresponding pamphlet on what constitutes citizenship.  The United States Constitution grants only two reasons for Citizenship.  Both your parents are Citizens, or you were born here, that is it.  Everything else was added by Congress in the INA.  I used to agonize with the Office of Chief Counsel, because of all the laws created by Congress that granted Citizenship.  Well, was he legitimated by the U.S. father, even though he was born to an illegal alien mother and lived in that country forever, well, odds are under the INA, he is a Citizen.  That is not guaranteed by the Constitution or the 14th Amendment.  That is one of the many amnesties generated by Congress, codified, and put in the INA, with the blessing of whomever was President then.

 

That is how we got to this point.

[Moshe]

Are Subject to the Authority of the United States, just like all of us.  There are no "Free Citizens" that don't have to comply with the Laws of the United States?  That is not hard.  You may as well try to make something out of nothing, and claim only state maliitias can be armed, not anyone else, because some jackass wanted to do away with the Second Amendment,  and was determined to red marker through the "Shall Not Be Infringed" because they don't like it.  What is next, are we going to say "warrantless search and seizure" doesn't mean getting a warrant, it just means I have a belief you are doing something illegal in your home, so I can go in anytime without a Judge's Warrant, because warrantless can mean, without reason?  Or, how about the Freedom of Assembly, means you can Assemble in a building for coffee and tea, but not to protest Government Action.  Or, the right to redress the government, means you have the right send two letters to your representatives?  What if, because the National Cathedral holds red mass, we have a precedent that is Catholic, so everyone must be Catholic now.   Funny, there is no National Synagogue.  Does, this mean, that Atheists can go and kick over all the crosses in military graveyards as that is expressing a National Religion?  When does it end?  The Government taketh away, but never gives back.

 

Real life example.  The Patriot Act, illegal as hell.  Obama used it to bug splat United States citizens.  Who thinks it was neat that Joint Operation Center bug splatted a U.S. Citizen teenager abroad, simply because he was looking for his father, as he didn't know what happened to him, and the JOC decided to bug splat the teenager just in case he turned out like dad.  No right to a speedy trial, just a hellfire up the ass.

 

 

[Jammersix]

The worst thing Democrats can do to the "president" is make sure his microphone is turned on.

[Dric902]

The 14th is much more than birthright citizenship

we also get “due process” and “equal treatment under the law” from the 14th. Along with a lot of case law, the 14th has been one of the most litigated Amendments in the document.

 

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Edited November 22, 2018 by Dric902

[Moshe]

5 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

The 14th is much more than birthright citizenship

we also get “due process” and “equal treatment under the law” from the 14th. Along with a lot of case law, the 14th has been one of the most litigated Amendments in the document.

 

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Not to mention the end of Slavery.

[fortyofforty]

9 hours ago, Moshe said:

Are Subject to the Authority of the United States, just like all of us.  There are no "Free Citizens" that don't have to comply with the Laws of the United States?  That is not hard.  You may as well try to make something out of nothing, and claim only state maliitias can be armed, not anyone else, because some jackass wanted to do away with the Second Amendment,  and was determined to red marker through the "Shall Not Be Infringed" because they don't like it.  What is next, are we going to say "warrantless search and seizure" doesn't mean getting a warrant, it just means I have a belief you are doing something illegal in your home, so I can go in anytime without a Judge's Warrant, because warrantless can mean, without reason?  Or, how about the Freedom of Assembly, means you can Assemble in a building for coffee and tea, but not to protest Government Action.  Or, the right to redress the government, means you have the right send two letters to your representatives?  What if, because the National Cathedral holds red mass, we have a precedent that is Catholic, so everyone must be Catholic now.   Funny, there is no National Synagogue.  Does, this mean, that Atheists can go and kick over all the crosses in military graveyards as that is expressing a National Religion?  When does it end?  The Government taketh away, but never gives back.

 

Real life example.  The Patriot Act, illegal as hell.  Obama used it to bug splat United States citizens.  Who thinks it was neat that Joint Operation Center bug splatted a U.S. Citizen teenager abroad, simply because he was looking for his father, as he didn't know what happened to him, and the JOC decided to bug splat the teenager just in case he turned out like dad.  No right to a speedy trial, just a hellfire up the ass.

 

 

Well, at least Obama wasn't able to do it.  Oh, wait.  He did it.  And do Trump's words and actions explain his midterm failure in the House and success in the Senate?

[Moshe]

17 minutes ago, fortyofforty said:

Well, at least Obama wasn't able to do it.  Oh, wait.  He did it.  And do Trump's words and actions explain his midterm failure in the House and success in the Senate?

He violated the separation of powers and abused his authority.  However, he never went so far as saying he could eliminate a section of the Bill of Rights carte blanche.  I am not his fan, I never voted for him.  Frankly, I hated the bastard.  But, saying, because THIS is MY guy, so he can trample on the Bill of Rights, leads to a downfall and a destruction of Representative.  I have always been a Patriot and Served my County in a Law Enforcement capacity.  I am not, however, a Cult of Personality to no man.  I am not in to Nationalism.  You realize the term Nationalist makes people like me stress out, due to a little thing called National Socialism.   I believe in the Bill of Rights, and believe no man is worthy of stripping them away from the American people, no matter how orange his comb over.  My thought is, you believe in the Bill of Rights, or you don't.  If you don't try going to other countries.  I have.  It is fun watching someone get hauled off as they declare their freedom, and get thrown in a jail a monkey would be ashamed to live in.  There are other countries, if you hate the Bill of Rights that protects the American People.  I have seen people taken into a concrete room and have their law enforcement beat the living hell out of them (Nicaragua).  Why are we trying to screw with the Rights accorded to Citizens born here in the United States, in the name of Nationalism?  How American do you have to be to live here?  Obama tried, so my guy can?  Wow, that is the mentality that makes the okay sign by the hip.

[Moshe]

Can this guy be more dumb?  The Army cannot augment the USBP by force.  Posse Comitatus, disallows this.  The Marines, however can.

[Dric902]

2 hours ago, Moshe said:

Not to mention the end of Slavery.

The 14th didn’t end slavery. It was to remedy the democrook attempt to take control of the House by using population numbers including slaves to set the number of representatives, but not allow them to vote as they were not citizens. Kind of like counting dogs and cats to set the amount of food delivered, but only feeding cats.

 

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[Dric902]

35 minutes ago, Moshe said:

He violated the separation of powers and abused his authority.  However, he never went so far as saying he could eliminate a section of the Bill of Rights carte blanche.  I am not his fan, I never voted for him.  Frankly, I hated the bastard.  But, saying, because THIS is MY guy, so he can trample on the Bill of Rights, leads to a downfall and a destruction of Representative.  I have always been a Patriot and Served my County in a Law Enforcement capacity.  I am not, however, a Cult of Personality to no man.  I am not in to Nationalism.  You realize the term Nationalist makes people like me stress out, due to a little thing called National Socialism.   I believe in the Bill of Rights, and believe no man is worthy of stripping them away from the American people, no matter how orange his comb over.  My thought is, you believe in the Bill of Rights, or you don't.  If you don't try going to other countries.  I have.  It is fun watching someone get hauled off as they declare their freedom, and get thrown in a jail a monkey would be ashamed to live in.  There are other countries, if you hate the Bill of Rights that protects the American People.  I have seen people taken into a concrete room and have their law enforcement beat the living hell out of them (Nicaragua).  Why are we trying to screw with the Rights accorded to Citizens born here in the United States, in the name of Nationalism?  How American do you have to be to live here?  Obama tried, so my guy can?  Wow, that is the mentality that makes the okay sign by the hip.

The 14th isn’t in the “Bill of Rights” that’s only the first 10 amendments. It is a constitutional amendment like the other 26.

im not a Trump hero worshiper, he has the same constraints as any other Executive. While I agree with the dangers of the “We can, but You can’t” political pendulum swingers. I go back to Andrew Jackson wanting to slaughter my ancestors for land, gold, resources. When the SCOTUS ruled that he couldn’t, he gave his response that has been touted as a cheering applause line by idiots ever since....”the Supreme Court has made its ruling, now let them enforce it”

native Americans were excluded from the 14th Amendment for just this reason, only to be recognized as human beings in 1924.

 

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[Moshe]

5 minutes ago, Dric902 said:

The 14th didn’t end slavery. It was to remedy the democrook attempt to take control of the House by using population numbers including slaves to set the number of representatives, but not allow them to vote as they were not citizens. Kind of like counting dogs and cats to set the amount of food delivered, but only feeding cats.

The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, ratified in 1868, granted citizenship to all persons born or naturalized in the United States—including former slaves—and guaranteed all citizens “equal protection of the laws.”  How is this hard for him to grasp?  Well, because he has no good advice.  He fires those that disagree with him. 

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[Dric902]

5 minutes ago, Moshe said:

 

“Former” slaves.

Slavery had already ended, the 14th was part of the reconstruction.

 

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[Moshe]

Just now, Dric902 said:

“Former” slaves.

Slavery had already ended, the 14th was part of the reconstruction.

And now you know the clause he is dicking with.  Taking a red pen to that section of the Amendment, rather doing things the right way. He keeps saying he can do what he wants, and this wave of National Socialism follows him.  Yes, that makes me nervous.  We have been down this road before, just in Europe.  Anti-Semitism is on the rise.  Nationalism is a bad word to me.  Patriotism isn't.  They are not related.  This happened in Germany, mob rule by cult of personality, taking over the Reichstag.  Now, he wants to appoint "Captains" to do his bidding?  Who are these people.  Is he going to go beyond firing people that disagree with him, and have them roughed up by Captains.  We live in dangerous times, where our Representative Democracy dies not with a whimper, but a cheer.  There is no legal backdoor to this thing.   And all these irrational actions taken by him cost us the House.  The House is now Blue.

Just now, Dric902 said:

 

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[Dric902]

5 minutes ago, Moshe said:

And now you know the clause he is dicking with.  Taking a red pen to that section of the Amendment, rather doing things the right way. He keeps saying he can do what he wants, and this wave of National Socialism follows him.  Yes, that makes me nervous.  We have been down this road before, just in Europe.  Anti-Semitism is on the rise.  Nationalism is a bad word to me.  Patriotism isn't.  They are not related.  This happened in Germany, mob rule by cult of personality, taking over the Reichstag.  Now, he wants to appoint "Captains" to do his bidding?  Who are these people.  Is he going to go beyond firing people that disagree with him, and have them roughed up by Captains.  We live in dangerous times, where our Representative Democracy dies not with a whimper, but a cheer.  There is no legal backdoor to this thing.   And all these irrational actions taken by him cost us the House.  The House is now Blue.

 

No one can take a red pen to the Constitution. 

Political rhetoric has been reaching new and more foolish heights for years. And has been accelerating greatly (biggly even) in the last cycle. A great deal of what Trump says, tweets, remarks are just applause lines. 

Basically BS that the crowd loves to hear and cheer for, when 30 seconds of thought reveals to be......stupid. No different than “lowering the seas, the world beginning to heal”

 

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[Moshe]

 

[Moshe]

1 minute ago, Dric902 said:

No one can take a red pen to the Constitution. 

Political rhetoric has been reaching new and more foolish heights for years. And has been accelerating greatly (biggly even) in the last cycle. A great deal of what Trump says, tweets, remarks are just applause lines. 

Basically BS that the crowd loves to hear and cheer for, when 30 seconds of thought reveals to be......stupid. No different than “lowering the seas, the world beginning to heal”

 

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But, when someone declares they can, and everyone cheers, but does not do it the right way as, I illustrated so simply even Trump can get it.