Dric902 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 What about the school administration? Lots of common sense security measures they failed to make. secure doors, metal detectors, controlled entry are the blameless? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Without examples, nothing changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 48 minutes ago, janice6 said: Without examples, nothing changes. Agreed, the POS should be on death row for a total of ten minutes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, Dric902 said: What about the school administration? Lots of common sense security measures they failed to make. secure doors, metal detectors, controlled entry are the blameless? . Not required. That is why they had a Deputy which appeared to be a Don't-upty. Just a silly bastard with a pistol which he was worried about his own skin and no one else. That is why he didn't deserve a retirement and should have been summarily fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Dric902 said: Agreed, the POS should be on death row for a total of ten minutes . Takes less time than that to put someone's lights out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Dric902 said: Agreed, the POS should be on death row for a total of ten minutes . Just so he would know how those kids felt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 16 hours ago, janice6 said: Just so he would know how those kids felt! Right before his lights go out. Fitting punishment. I like ironic ones. Anyone who would let children die and listen to it happen and do nothing has a depraved mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Moshe said: Right before his lights go out. Fitting punishment. I like ironic ones. Anyone who would let children die and listen to it happen and do nothing has a depraved mind. Talking a put the killer not chickenshit cop . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Dric902 said: Talking a put the killer not chicken**** cop . So, the fire fighters refuse to rescue your family in your burning home and instead starts roasting marsh mellows. The same thing. Would you want them to go in and rescue your family, or are you okay with them roasting marsh mellows, because they have no obligation to help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Moshe said: So, the fire fighters refuse to rescue your family in your burning home and instead starts roasting marsh mellows. The same thing. Would you want them to go in and rescue your family, or are you okay with them roasting marsh mellows, because they have no obligation to help? Want them to...hell yes. And there are thousands of examples of firefighters, cops, EMTs, any first responders going above and beyond to show courage, sacrifice and general badassery. for you to say that it’s a requirement of employment and not courage is pissing on the graves of men. They were just doing their jobs then, next time one of them saves your life or the life of a loved one.....don’t thank them, they were just fulfilling the job requirements. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 13 hours ago, Dric902 said: Want them to...hell yes. And there are thousands of examples of firefighters, cops, EMTs, any first responders going above and beyond to show courage, sacrifice and general badassery. for you to say that it’s a requirement of employment and not courage is pissing on the graves of men. They were just doing their jobs then, next time one of them saves your life or the life of a loved one.....don’t thank them, they were just fulfilling the job requirements. . What about pissing upon the graves of 11 children in Florida? Nameless, faceless, I don't live there, etc., etc. Now, that you have evaded the question, I will repeat it. If your home was a ablaze, your family trapped inside, The Fire Department says, "Dude, it is hot in there, might get burned. No thanks." Then they put weenies and marsh mellows on sticks in the blaze, would you be angry? Would you want to go after the blaze first responders who let people die? After all, you say it is not their responsibility. Things like this have happened, but not to such an extreme. In rural areas, they have a pseudo-volunteer fire department, but they expect home owners to pay into a system that supports them. Those who don't, they just stand and watch the blaze, and tell the home owner they should have paid in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) I have noticed that you seem to rant a lot over emotional responses. And ten to get angry and belligerent if someone doesn’t join your conga line. The SCOTUS clearly said, over and over again. Thousands of first responder have shown the courage and bravery that exemplifies the best of us. but.........you........cannot........require........it. Hence you cannot criminally charge a failure of bravery. Watch what happens or don’t, you may get really angry at the liberal socialist America hating level of society for not throwing the scared cop in the wood chipper while the shooter is still waiting trial. I'm sure it is just antithetical to the courageous super secret squirrel ninja operator sense of duty that you have shown repeatedly in saving the world at every turn. im finished running around the patriotic tree with you. Water it if you want, you cannot be required to. . Edited June 14, 2019 by Dric902 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 9:46 AM, Dric902 said: I have noticed that you seem to rant a lot over emotional responses. And ten to get angry and belligerent if someone doesn’t join your conga line. The SCOTUS clearly said, over and over again. Thousands of first responder have shown the courage and bravery that exemplifies the best of us. but.........you........cannot........require........it. Hence you cannot criminally charge a failure of bravery. Watch what happens or don’t, you may get really angry at the liberal socialist America hating level of society for not throwing the scared cop in the wood chipper while the shooter is still waiting trial. I'm sure it is just antithetical to the courageous super secret squirrel ninja operator sense of duty that you have shown repeatedly in saving the world at every turn. im finished running around the patriotic tree with you. Water it if you want, you cannot be required to. . Um, facts. In incorporated areas around the area, if the home owner does not pay into their fire department, they let the home burn. Nothing super secret squirrel about my sense of duty. I have those commendations on my wall in our office. If you aren't willing to risk your life for others, you should never be a first responder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, Moshe said: Um, facts. In incorporated areas around the area, if the home owner does not pay into their fire department, they let the home burn. Nothing super secret squirrel about my sense of duty. I have those commendations on my wall in our office. If you aren't willing to risk your life for others, you should never be a first responder. “Willing” ”Required under penalty of law” it’s not bravery or courage if you can be charged criminally for failing to risk your life. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Dric902 said: “Willing” ”Required under penalty of law” it’s not bravery or courage if you can be charged criminally for failing to risk your life. . If I let 32 people die, which I could have done. I would have had to stand tall as I turned in my gear. You see, there is law, which you want to hang cowardice as a virtue, and there is policy. Law says what you can and should not do. Policy is far, far more restrictive. In this case his cowardice was so egregious as to shock the average person. When you are responsible for the lives of people in one building and you stand by and let them die, you have no right to wear a badge, and by your cowardice allowed a mass murder to occur, you are worthless, depraved sub-human that does not deserve to breath air. Anyone who behaved in that manner on a small scale was fired. These are the useless pieces of **** that watch their partner die and run away. So, running off with a pension, unacceptable. Allowing 11 children to die because you are a coward, I am glad they are prosecuting him. If he has a problem take it to the Supreme Court, given the current make up, they will not decide in his favor. He will probably receive 11 counts of manslaughter and have to appeal from a jail cell. But, if he does win, it sets a dangerous precedent. But, by then, his undeserved pension will be eaten up by attorney's fees. He will be made an example of, tested through the courts, and will either way come out a deservedly broken man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Then I will stop thanking the cops, firemen, and first responders for their actions in saving lives.....it’s just the job they signed up to do. nothing brave about it as we would throw them in jail for not doing it. Im done with the bullshit bravado . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 17 hours ago, Dric902 said: Then I will stop thanking the cops, firemen, and first responders for their actions in saving lives.....it’s just the job they signed up to do. nothing brave about it as we would throw them in jail for not doing it. Im done with the bull**** bravado . No, it is done because it is the job and a sense of duty, Those on the outside won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dric902 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Moshe said: No, it is done because it is the job and a sense of duty Or else we will throw you in jail, got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moshe Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dric902 said: Or else we will throw you in jail, got it Did you bump your head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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