ASH Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/17/politics/andrew-cuomo-marijuana-legalization/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minervadoe Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Politically, it's a good move. Candidly, it's better for you than alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockett Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Libtards with fried brains won't oppose any socialism and vote for their enabler. The land of the unproductive beta males and feminists. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCHMAN Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 ... and taxpayer provided free munchies at every polling station! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_Hallbert Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Leftists are scraping the bottom of the barrel for votes. Declining to prosecute crimes, harboring illegals in their jurisdictions, pandering to every fringe identity, allowing felons to vote, and caving in to the Stoner crowd .....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4102 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Now he can legally turn NY Gun owners that possess "legal" pot into instant Felons. Two birds with one stone, take away their Second Amendment Rights and tax the **** out of them at the same time. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehan2 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 It may be the ONLY thing that I agree with that Cuomo has ever said. Legalize marijuana, the war on drugs has been lost. It costs us Billions a year LESS laws and LESS government intervention is always better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4102 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, tehan2 said: It may be the ONLY thing that I agree with that Cuomo has ever said. Legalize marijuana, the war on drugs has been lost. It costs us Billions a year LESS laws and LESS government intervention is always better Cept he, nor any other State can Legalize marijuana. They can "decriminalize" it and refuse to spend state monies and resources on it, but it will still be "illegal" as it is a Schedule I Controlled Substance according to the Federal Government. That means that possession of Marijuana and a firearm is Still a Felony in all 50 States. Question 11(e) https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/open-letter/all-ffls-sept2011-open-letter-marijuana-medicinal-purposes/download Edited December 19, 2018 by steve4102 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbie18 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, tehan2 said: It may be the ONLY thing that I agree with that Cuomo has ever said. Legalize marijuana, the war on drugs has been lost. It costs us Billions a year LESS laws and LESS government intervention is always better I'm beginning to agree with you. However, as another poster just pointed out, it's a federal issue. Maybe Trump can take a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4102 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) One of the Major obstacles I find with the decriminalization of pot is the legal definition of "Under the Influence". With alcohol we have a limit (.08) to drive a vehicle. This limit can be measured several ways, even on the side of the road by a LEO. Driving under the influence of Alcohol is against the law, driving under the influence of marijuana is also against the law. What is the Legal definition of "under the Influence" of THC, how can this level be measured and no, odor and an empty bag of Cheetos doesn't cut it? Edited December 19, 2018 by steve4102 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehan2 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, steve4102 said: One of the Major obstacles I find with the decriminalization of pot is the legal definition of "Under the Influence". With alcohol we have a limit (.08) to drive a vehicle. This limit can be measured several ways, even on the side of the road by a LEO. Driving under the influence of Alcohol is against the law, driving under the influence of marijuana is also against the law. What is the Legal definition of "under the Influence" of THC, how can this level be measured and no, odor and an empty bag of Cheetos doesn't cut it? I do some work for the marijuana industry (read my previous posts if interested. All my dealing have been with SUPER Professional business people) . One of them filled me in on what Australia is doing https://cannabisexpress.com.au/blog/post/australia-s-unique-roadside-test-for-marijuana-use-in-drivers I'm 100% against random stops, but if stopped and suspected, similar to a breathalyzer, I think they are almost there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crockett Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Pot furthers addiction and in this society we are prone to more people being addicted to all kinds of substances. The resulting opportunity costs alone are much higher than the "war on drugs" let alone on pot only. The drugged sheep are unproductive, other than being a tool for democratic votes. We - as society - need to get AWAY from drugs, as well as government dependencies! It is time for PERSONAL responsibility in order to step away from the ever growing governmental monstrosity. Legalizing pot is the total opposite of personal responsibility. It is an excuse, a temporary fix that doesn't fix anything but hurts the ability to focus, and a gateway to more excessive drugs. It is time for the people to finally grow up. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KWalrad Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 WWTBOD? What Would TBO Do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 alcohol needs to be on the table as well . we know how many drunks kill each year. current laws and judical processes are not working , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) hemp farm about 40 miles from me , i know the dude , he has a good set up he makes bout 50 grand an acre give or take https://www.broadwayhemp.com/ its a professional business , no tie die or faygo drinks here .lol it is also sold in pharmacies and grocery stores local Edited December 19, 2018 by ASH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, ASH said: hemp farm about 40 miles from me , i know the dude , he has a good set up he makes bout 50 grand an acre give or take https://www.broadwayhemp.com/ its a professional business , no tie die or faygo drinks here .lol it is also sold in pharmacies and grocery stores local Hemp is grown for fiber not THC. Hemp has less than 0.3 percent THC. Marijuana has an average of 18.7 percent, Hemp is not marijuana. I grew up in the sixties and tried smoking both. Hemp does not get you high and marijuana does and I know this for a fact from first hand knowledge. and no, I don't smoke it anymore. I gave it up when I took up drinking full time and now I don't drink anymore either. https://medium.com/cbd-origin/hemp-vs-marijuana-the-difference-explained-a837c51aa8f7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_Hallbert Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 One of the Major obstacles I find with the decriminalization of pot is the legal definition of "Under the Influence". With alcohol we have a limit (.08) to drive a vehicle. This limit can be measured several ways, even on the side of the road by a LEO. Driving under the influence of Alcohol is against the law, driving under the influence of marijuana is also against the law. What is the Legal definition of "under the Influence" of THC, how can this level be measured and no, odor and an empty bag of Cheetos doesn't cut it? In the absence of specific measurable criteria as a standard for determining ‘Under the Influence’, it would be necessary to fall back to the older standard where the decision to charge ‘DUI’ is made according to the Officer’s Discretion.....Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4102 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, C_Hallbert said: In the absence of specific measurable criteria as a standard for determining ‘Under the Influence’, it would be necessary to fall back to the older standard where the decision to charge ‘DUI’ is made according to the Officer’s Discretion..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Which can easily be challenged in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Borg warner said: Hemp is grown for fiber not THC. Hemp has less than 0.3 percent THC. Marijuana has an average of 18.7 percent, Hemp is not marijuana. I grew up in the sixties and tried smoking both. Hemp does not get you high and marijuana does and I know this for a fact from first hand knowledge. and no, I don't smoke it anymore. I gave it up when I took up drinking full time and now I don't drink anymore either. https://medium.com/cbd-origin/hemp-vs-marijuana-the-difference-explained-a837c51aa8f7 im 50 years old , i know hemp does not get you high lol. i was just speaking on the market for it and money you make farming it .kinda thought it was common to know this i was asked to go into farming with him but i retired from farming this year , if i was 30 instead of 50 i would take the offer . not alot of work and good money. but im done working lol Edited December 20, 2018 by ASH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minderasr Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 So FUAC wants to legalize pot. Smokers rejoice. But if you're caught with a cigarette you'll be lynched on the spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBO Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/19/2018 at 8:42 AM, tehan2 said: LESS laws and LESS government intervention is always better 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBO Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/19/2018 at 2:20 PM, C_Hallbert said: In the absence of specific measurable criteria as a standard for determining ‘Under the Influence’, it would be necessary to fall back to the older standard where the decision to charge ‘DUI’ is made according to the Officer’s Discretion..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Standardized Field Sobriety Testing 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentpoet Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, TBO said: Standardized Field Sobriety Testing Hell! I can’t do that sober. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbie18 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, TBO said: Standardized Field Sobriety Testing Certified Drug Recognition Experts will be in even higher demand. I've had much of the training, but not all of it, yet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windowasher Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 On 12/18/2018 at 5:17 PM, minervadoe said: Politically, it's a good move. Candidly, it's better for you than alcohol. So you are OK watching someone lighting and smoking a joint and then getting on the school bus to drive your kids to classes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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