Gun control bills are dead at MN Capitol. Again.

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The deaths of two gun-control measures — expanding background checks for sales and creating so-called “red flag” protective orders — were cemented Thursday at the Minnesota Capitol without any actual votes on the ideas themselves.

 

Both were shot down on the floor of the Senate in procedural votes, and the speaker of the House said Thursday that they’re “dead” in his chamber as well.

 

The blow for gun-control advocates shouldn’t come as a huge surprise, because Republicans control both chambers, and the prospects for stricter gun laws were always slim.

 

 

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Gun control bills are dead at MN Capitol. Again.

 

By DAVE ORRICK | dorrick@pioneerpress.com | Pioneer Press

 

PUBLISHED: April 26, 2018 at 8:38 pm | UPDATED: April 26, 2018 at 10:17 pm

 

[https://i2]Marti Priest, of Hopkins, with Protect Minnesota, holds her sign outside the Senate Chamber, Thursday, April 26, 2018 as the Senate hears the Omnibus Supplemental Budget Bill in St. Paul. Sen. Ron Latz hopes to attach two gun violence prevention amendments to the judiciary and public safety section of the omnibus bill. (Tom Olmscheid / WorkingPress Photo Agency)

 

The deaths of two gun-control measures — expanding background checks for sales and creating so-called “red flag” protective orders — were cemented Thursday at the Minnesota Capitol without any actual votes on the ideas themselves.

 

Both were shot down on the floor of the Senate in procedural votes, and the speaker of the House said Thursday that they’re “dead” in his chamber as well.

 

The blow for gun-control advocates shouldn’t come as a huge surprise, because Republicans control both chambers, and the prospects for stricter gun laws were always slim.

 

Nonetheless, called to action following the Parkland, Fla., high school shooting earlier this year, supporters of stricter gun laws pushed hard — and in different ways than previously.

 

Thousands of high school students walked out of classes and marched to the Capitol, joining their peers around the nations. One small groups of students tried a different route, making frequent trips to the Capitol to visit quietly with lawmakers of both parties in their offices. And demonstrators wearing blaze orange were a fixture on the Capitol steps and in the Rotunda for much of the session, which will continues for several weeks.

 

Meanwhile, Democratic lawmakers pushed hard. They introduced a slew of bills, from a targeted plan to raise the age to buy some guns to a wide-ranging plan that would phase out semiautomatic rifles. One lawmaker employed a rarely used rule to force a hearingon the proposals to expand background checks and creat red-flag protective orders, which would allow guns to be seized via court order from people deemed dangerous to themselves or others. That hearing, held in the House, was the only full hearing on any gun-control bill this session.

 

DAUDT: ‘THOSE BILLS ARE DEAD’

 

The day before, House Speaker Kurt Daudt appeared to open the door on the proposals, or some form of new gun legislation — and it was widely reported as such by several news outlets, including this one. But on Thursday, Daudt said there was confusion and misunderstanding over what he said, and he never meant to suggest either of those two measures were in play.

 

“Effectively, they are dead for this session,” Daudt said in an interview Thursday with the Pioneer Press. “I also will be very very clear: On a personal level, I do not support those two provisions. … Those bills are dead.”

 

On Wednesday, Daudt had used the words “hopeful” and “optimistic” when asked by a group of reporters about “gun legislation” in general, as well as expanded background checks and the protective orders.

 

On Thursday, he said: “I think there was confusion about, I think maybe we were talking about two different things. … I think it was an honest misunderstanding in the questions.”

 

SENATE VOTE NEVER HAPPENED

 

Democrats made a push Thursday in the Senate to at least force a vote on the two ideas, as proposed by Sen. Ron Latz, DFL-St. Louis Park. Because Republicans hold a mere one-vote majority in the Senate, and

because at least one Republican has previously suggested support for each idea, Latz said Wednesday he was hopeful.

 

However, a procedural vote for each failed to garner a majority. In one case three Democrats joined all Republicans in the vote, and in the other, two joined the GOP majority.

 

In the end, 50 minutes was spent on the two bills, with the only substantive conversation being Latz explaining https://www.twincities.com/2018/04/26/gun-control-bills-are-dead-at-mn-capitol-again/.'>https://www.twincities.com/2018/04/26/gun-control-bills-are-dead-at-mn-capitol-again/.

 

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[janice6]

I'm encouraged by this!  although, I don't believe for an instant that we, MN gun rights supporters, should sit on our laurels and believe we are safe.  I do believe that we should respond to every liberal action against citizen rights with all the vigor and strength we can muster.  The fight is never over in a state like ours.

Courtesy is seen by liberals as a weakness to be preyed upon, and they are relentless in this.  Remember, it's all about control, nothing about guns. The retention of Constitutional rights is an ongoing war. 

And as in any war:  

"The war for freedom will never really be won because the price of our freedom is constant vigilance over ourselves and over our Government."  – Eleanor Roosevelt

 

“War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.” William Tecumseh Sherman

“War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.” William Tecumseh Sherman
 

 

 

Edited April 27, 2018 by janice6

[holyjohnson]

8 hours ago, janice6 said:

I'm encouraged by this!  although, I don't believe for an instant that we, MN gun rights supporters, should sit on our laurels and believe we are safe.  I do believe that we should respond to every liberal action against citizen rights with all the vigor and strength we can muster.  The fight is never over in a state like ours.

Courtesy is seen by liberals as a weakness to be preyed upon, and they are relentless in this.  Remember, it's all about control, nothing about guns. The retention of Constitutional rights is an ongoing war. 

And as in any war:  

"The war for freedom will never really be won because the price of our freedom is constant vigilance over ourselves and over our Government."  – Eleanor Roosevelt

 

“War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.” William Tecumseh Sherman

“War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.” William Tecumseh Sherman
 

 

 

absolutely the Liberals here won`t stop trying to bully this through,probably not even letting it go for this year.

they think there is momentum for Gun control and will use every means and victim necessary. to hammer away at it.

 

this was a very Grassroots effort with e-mails,letters and phone calls to legislators to keep the pressure on them to kill this bill A.S.AP. and it worked.