pipedreams Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 With the exception of the COVID shots, there is perhaps nothing in the economy that has gotten more tailwind in terms of government support than electric vehicles. Whether it’s the subsidies, the mandates, the inflation of the cost of gasoline, or the construction of cumbersome electric charging infrastructure, the government has done everything it can to turn a product that is inherently costly and impractical into something accessible to the public. Yet despite it all, a new study shows fueling these cars is more expensive than most gas-powered cars, even with record high gasoline prices, which were induced by policies from the same green energy. Now is the time to end all subsidies and mandates on behalf of this pathetic industry. "Just consider what would happen during these heat waves if we only had electric vehicles. California grid operators warned people during last summer’s heat wave to ease off charging their cars. Now imagine if they had their way and 100% of cars were electric and 100% of the electricity was generated from wind and solar. Well, you’d be stuck at home … which is exactly how they want it." https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-study-shows-electric-vehicles-are-a-scam-propped-up-by-government "Biden’s signature legislation last year handed out over $50 billion to the electric vehicle industry, including $7.7 billion for EV charging stations and $10.3 billion in grid and battery subsidies. But just like money can’t buy you love, it also can’t buy you efficacy, efficiency, or safety. Despite all of the corporate welfare for green energy, it’s still natural fuels from the earth that are holding up Texas’s grid during this cold spell and ice storm in the northern part of the state." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Borg warner Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 8 hours ago, pipedreams said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 19 hours ago, pipedreams said: Is that 500 hours of running or 500 hours of setting there? How frequently thereafter? What is done with removed oil? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul53 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just 2 questions. How can I find this study so I can read it myself? And, Why ? I mean, the study exposes these terrible things being done to us, but why are they doing it. They already have us by the the short and curly, what more can they gain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minervadoe Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 There is beginning to be enough history on wind power to show that it is not going to prove profitable (since the cost of maintenance on wind towers is turning out to be exorbitant). This is just the tip of the iceberg. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/02/wind_power_makers_suffer_huge_losses_want_to_abandon_major_project.html And the market for used electric vehicles is going to turn out to be a buy beware nightmare as people are slowly going to realize that the cost of replacement batteries is going to render most used EVs worthless once replacement battery costs are factored in. https://www.thedrive.com/guides-and-gear/these-replacement-battery-costs-for-these-six-normal-evs-is-staggeringly-high https://mechanicbase.com/electric-vehicles/ev-battery-replacement-cost/ https://mechanicbase.com/electric-vehicles/toyota-prius-battery-replacement-cost/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Paul53 said: Just 2 questions. How can I find this study so I can read it myself? And, Why ? I mean, the study exposes these terrible things being done to us, but why are they doing it. They already have us by the the short and curly, what more can they gain? Here is the original study by the Anderson Economic Group: https://www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/cars-gas-powered-cheaper-to-fuel-than-electric-in-late-2022/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Paul53 said: Just 2 questions. How can I find this study so I can read it myself? And, Why ? I mean, the study exposes these terrible things being done to us, but why are they doing it. They already have us by the the short and curly, what more can they gain? This link was in the OP plus a couple more. https://www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/cars-gas-powered-cheaper-to-fuel-than-electric-in-late-2022/ https://www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/second-edition-real-world-cost-of-fueling-evs-and-ice-vehicles-2/ https://www.andersoneconomicgroup.com/auto-dashboard/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 hours ago, railfancwb said: Is that 500 hours of running or 500 hours of setting there? How frequently thereafter? What is done with removed oil? I would guess after the initial change like many gear boxes and engines the changes are not required that often. Did find the following link which may answer your question. https://surgeaccelerator.com/do-wind-turbines-use-oil/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 22 hours ago, Paul53 said: Just 2 questions. How can I find this study so I can read it myself? And, Why ? I mean, the study exposes these terrible things being done to us, but why are they doing it. They already have us by the the short and curly, what more can they gain? The one thing they always want - more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 On 2/6/2023 at 7:54 AM, Paul53 said: Just 2 questions. How can I find this study so I can read it myself? And, Why ? I mean, the study exposes these terrible things being done to us, but why are they doing it. They already have us by the the short and curly, what more can they gain? Money. Follow the money trail. It always leads to DC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul53 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I don't know where to start to follow the money other than to the person who implies they have that access. It's easy to make claims but unless they have proof, then it's just so much hot air. Give me the proof so I can learn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellik Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Fox biz reported today, 15 Feb 2023, Ford has halted sales of their toy pick up recharge truck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aomagrat Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I didn't need a study to tell me that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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