The dreaded DST fiasco

[DAKA]

Monday, October 31, 2022     Mexico to Daylight Time: ¡Adiós!

Under one of America’s more benighted federal laws — the Uniform Time Act of 1966, as amended by the even more benighted Energy Policy Act of 2005 — Daylight Saving Time ends on the first Sunday of each November. That means clocks will be moved back an hour this coming Saturday night. As regular readers may know, I am firmly of the view that Daylight Saving Time stinks. It is an anachronism that never lived up to the claims made by its promoters. It does not save energy or reduce the demand for electricity. It is opposed by a majority of the American public. In most of the world it is nonexistent. Worst of all, it is bad for human health. Daylight Saving Time “generates a slew of harms,” I noted last year. “In the days following the onset of daylight time each March, there is a measurable increase in suicides, atrial fibrillation, strokes, and heart attacks. Workplace injuries climb. So do fatal car crashes and emergency room visits. There is even evidence that judges hand down harsher sentences.” It isn’t hard to understand why a growing chorus of scientists has lately been making the case for ending daylight saving time. The American Academy of Sleep Medicine recommends that “seasonal time changes should be abolished in favor of a fixed, national, year-round standard time.” Its position has been echoed by other scientific organizations, among them the Society for Research on Biological Rhythms and the European Sleep Research Society. In a few clear-thinking parts of the American commonwealth, Daylight Saving Time doesn’t exist. Those fortunate jurisdictions include Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and most of Arizona. May we all merit one day soon to see its demise in every other part of the United States. Just as it has now been done away with by our neighbor to the south. Both houses of the Mexican Congress voted in recent days to approve a new “Ley de los Husos Horarios,” or Time Zones Act, which will eliminate Daylight Saving Time throughout the country except in cities that border the United States. With President Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s signature on the bill, most Mexicans will henceforth be free of the maddening semi-annual “spring-forward, fall-back” ritual. Ah, if only America would follow suit.   In Mexico, Daylight Saving Time has met its demise.  Though firmly in the pro-Standard Time camp, I am not inflexible on the subject. I know that a substantial minority of Americans prefer later sunsets and relish Daylight Saving Time. Maybe not quite as many as the tens of millions of us who would rather see daylight earlier in the morning than prolong it later into the evening, but a lot. Some controversies are zero-sum, but surely this is one dispute that lends itself to a peaceful compromise. Why not split the difference? All we have to do is shift the clock by 30 minutes, and leave it there for good. We can bring the harmful, costly, unhealthy, exasperating ritual of rejiggering our clocks to an end. We can stop springing forward and falling back. A single, simple compromise, a 30-minute adjustment, and it’s done. Let pro-Daylight and pro-Standard Americans meet each other halfway in peace and goodwill and give all of us something to cheer. Meanwhile, ¡Viva México!

[railfancwb]

23 minutes ago, DAKA said:

Monday, October 31, 2022     Mexico to Daylight Time: ¡Adiós!

Under one of America’s more benighted federal laws — the Uniform Time Act of 1966, as amended by the even more benighted Energy Policy Act of 2005 — Daylight Saving Time ends on the first Sunday of each November. That means clocks will be moved back an hour this coming Saturday night. As regular readers may know, I am firmly of the view that Daylight Saving Time stinks. It is an anachronism that never lived up to the claims made by its promoters. It does not save energy or reduce the demand for electricity. It is opposed by a majority of the American public. In most of the world it is nonexistent. Worst of all, it is bad for human health. Daylight Saving Time “generates a slew of harms,” I noted last year. “In the days following the onset of daylight time each March, there is a measurable increase in suicides, atrial fibrillation, strokes, and heart attacks. Workplace injuries climb. So do fatal car crashes and emergency room visits. There is even evidence that judges hand down harsher sentences.” It isn’t hard to understand why a growing chorus of scientists has lately been making the case for ending daylight saving time. The American Academy of Sleep Medicine recommends that “seasonal time changes should be abolished in favor of a fixed, national, year-round standard time.” Its position has been echoed by other scientific organizations, among them the Society for Research on Biological Rhythms and the European Sleep Research Society. In a few clear-thinking parts of the American commonwealth, Daylight Saving Time doesn’t exist. Those fortunate jurisdictions include Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and most of Arizona. May we all merit one day soon to see its demise in every other part of the United States. Just as it has now been done away with by our neighbor to the south. Both houses of the Mexican Congress voted in recent days to approve a new “Ley de los Husos Horarios,” or Time Zones Act, which will eliminate Daylight Saving Time throughout the country except in cities that border the United States. With President Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s signature on the bill, most Mexicans will henceforth be free of the maddening semi-annual “spring-forward, fall-back” ritual. Ah, if only America would follow suit.   In Mexico, Daylight Saving Time has met its demise.  Though firmly in the pro-Standard Time camp, I am not inflexible on the subject. I know that a substantial minority of Americans prefer later sunsets and relish Daylight Saving Time. Maybe not quite as many as the tens of millions of us who would rather see daylight earlier in the morning than prolong it later into the evening, but a lot. Some controversies are zero-sum, but surely this is one dispute that lends itself to a peaceful compromise. Why not split the difference? All we have to do is shift the clock by 30 minutes, and leave it there for good. We can bring the harmful, costly, unhealthy, exasperating ritual of rejiggering our clocks to an end. We can stop springing forward and falling back. A single, simple compromise, a 30-minute adjustment, and it’s done. Let pro-Daylight and pro-Standard Americans meet each other halfway in peace and goodwill and give all of us something to cheer. Meanwhile, ¡Viva México!

In honor of the compromise suggested I have one clock set thirty minutes off. When looking at it I add or subtract 1/2 hour “to get on the money”.

[janice6]

10 minutes ago, railfancwb said:

In honor of the compromise suggested I have one clock set thirty minutes off. When looking at it I add or subtract 1/2 hour “to get on the money”.

You are in concert with Newfundland.  They are the only 1/2 hour DST change.

[janice6]

39 minutes ago, DAKA said:

Monday, October 31, 2022     Mexico to Daylight Time: ¡Adiós!

Under one of America’s more benighted federal laws — the Uniform Time Act of 1966, as amended by the even more benighted Energy Policy Act of 2005 — Daylight Saving Time ends on the first Sunday of each November. That means clocks will be moved back an hour this coming Saturday night. As regular readers may know, I am firmly of the view that Daylight Saving Time stinks. It is an anachronism that never lived up to the claims made by its promoters. It does not save energy or reduce the demand for electricity. It is opposed by a majority of the American public. In most of the world it is nonexistent. Worst of all, it is bad for human health. Daylight Saving Time “generates a slew of harms,” I noted last year. “In the days following the onset of daylight time each March, there is a measurable increase in suicides, atrial fibrillation, strokes, and heart attacks. Workplace injuries climb. So do fatal car crashes and emergency room visits. There is even evidence that judges hand down harsher sentences.” It isn’t hard to understand why a growing chorus of scientists has lately been making the case for ending daylight saving time. The American Academy of Sleep Medicine recommends that “seasonal time changes should be abolished in favor of a fixed, national, year-round standard time.” Its position has been echoed by other scientific organizations, among them the Society for Research on Biological Rhythms and the European Sleep Research Society. In a few clear-thinking parts of the American commonwealth, Daylight Saving Time doesn’t exist. Those fortunate jurisdictions include Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and most of Arizona. May we all merit one day soon to see its demise in every other part of the United States. Just as it has now been done away with by our neighbor to the south. Both houses of the Mexican Congress voted in recent days to approve a new “Ley de los Husos Horarios,” or Time Zones Act, which will eliminate Daylight Saving Time throughout the country except in cities that border the United States. With President Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s signature on the bill, most Mexicans will henceforth be free of the maddening semi-annual “spring-forward, fall-back” ritual. Ah, if only America would follow suit.   In Mexico, Daylight Saving Time has met its demise.  Though firmly in the pro-Standard Time camp, I am not inflexible on the subject. I know that a substantial minority of Americans prefer later sunsets and relish Daylight Saving Time. Maybe not quite as many as the tens of millions of us who would rather see daylight earlier in the morning than prolong it later into the evening, but a lot. Some controversies are zero-sum, but surely this is one dispute that lends itself to a peaceful compromise. Why not split the difference? All we have to do is shift the clock by 30 minutes, and leave it there for good. We can bring the harmful, costly, unhealthy, exasperating ritual of rejiggering our clocks to an end. We can stop springing forward and falling back. A single, simple compromise, a 30-minute adjustment, and it’s done. Let pro-Daylight and pro-Standard Americans meet each other halfway in peace and goodwill and give all of us something to cheer. Meanwhile, ¡Viva México!

Correlation does not imply causation:  The phrase “correlation does not imply causation” is often used in statistics to point out that correlation between two variables does not necessarily mean that one variable causes the other to occur.    https://www.statology.org/correlation-does-not-imply-causation-examples/

Example 1: Ice Cream Sales & Shark Attacks

If we collect data for monthly ice cream sales and monthly shark attacks around the United States each year, we would find that the two variables are highly correlated.

Does this mean that consuming ice cream causes shark attacks?

I do agree with the intent of the article!

[Borg warner]

2 hours ago, DAKA said:

Monday, October 31, 2022     Mexico to Daylight Time: ¡Adiós!

Under one of America’s more benighted federal laws — the Uniform Time Act of 1966, as amended by the even more benighted Energy Policy Act of 2005 — Daylight Saving Time ends on the first Sunday of each November. That means clocks will be moved back an hour this coming Saturday night. As regular readers may know, I am firmly of the view that Daylight Saving Time stinks. It is an anachronism that never lived up to the claims made by its promoters. It does not save energy or reduce the demand for electricity. It is opposed by a majority of the American public. In most of the world it is nonexistent. Worst of all, it is bad for human health. Daylight Saving Time “generates a slew of harms,” I noted last year. “In the days following the onset of daylight time each March, there is a measurable increase in suicides, atrial fibrillation, strokes, and heart attacks. Workplace injuries climb. So do fatal car crashes and emergency room visits. There is even evidence that judges hand down harsher sentences.” It isn’t hard to understand why a growing chorus of scientists has lately been making the case for ending daylight saving time. The American Academy of Sleep Medicine recommends that “seasonal time changes should be abolished in favor of a fixed, national, year-round standard time.” Its position has been echoed by other scientific organizations, among them the Society for Research on Biological Rhythms and the European Sleep Research Society. In a few clear-thinking parts of the American commonwealth, Daylight Saving Time doesn’t exist. Those fortunate jurisdictions include Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and most of Arizona. May we all merit one day soon to see its demise in every other part of the United States. Just as it has now been done away with by our neighbor to the south. Both houses of the Mexican Congress voted in recent days to approve a new “Ley de los Husos Horarios,” or Time Zones Act, which will eliminate Daylight Saving Time throughout the country except in cities that border the United States. With President Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s signature on the bill, most Mexicans will henceforth be free of the maddening semi-annual “spring-forward, fall-back” ritual. Ah, if only America would follow suit.   In Mexico, Daylight Saving Time has met its demise.  Though firmly in the pro-Standard Time camp, I am not inflexible on the subject. I know that a substantial minority of Americans prefer later sunsets and relish Daylight Saving Time. Maybe not quite as many as the tens of millions of us who would rather see daylight earlier in the morning than prolong it later into the evening, but a lot. Some controversies are zero-sum, but surely this is one dispute that lends itself to a peaceful compromise. Why not split the difference? All we have to do is shift the clock by 30 minutes, and leave it there for good. We can bring the harmful, costly, unhealthy, exasperating ritual of rejiggering our clocks to an end. We can stop springing forward and falling back. A single, simple compromise, a 30-minute adjustment, and it’s done. Let pro-Daylight and pro-Standard Americans meet each other halfway in peace and goodwill and give all of us something to cheer. Meanwhile, ¡Viva México!

I've been saying change it by a HALF hour for years but it's one of those things that makes too much common sense for most people who don't HAVE any common sense to see the obvious practicality of it.

I'm in the Pro-permanent Daylight savings time camp because I'm just not a "Morning Person" and if it's dark later in the morning it's not a problem because that's when the day is just beginning and it's not the most productive time of the day anyway. But just changing it by a half hour is the perfect compromise and not many truly perfect compromises actually exist.

[LostinTexas]

2 hours ago, janice6 said:

Correlation does not imply causation:  The phrase “correlation does not imply causation” is often used in statistics to point out that correlation between two variables does not necessarily mean that one variable causes the other to occur.    https://www.statology.org/correlation-does-not-imply-causation-examples/

Example 1: Ice Cream Sales & Shark Attacks

If we collect data for monthly ice cream sales and monthly shark attacks around the United States each year, we would find that the two variables are highly correlated.

Does this mean that consuming ice cream causes shark attacks?

I do agree with the intent of the article!

No, it means June, July and August are the warmest months and people are seeking a cold snack and heading to the beach. Statistics are correct. How you label them is the subject of confusion.

I'm not a DLS advocate. The funny thing is, even the ones that hate it would rather have the two inches on the bottom of the blanket instead of on the top. That is the hour in the evening instead of the morning for those who don't get the joke.

Clocks are the irrelevant variable. A measuring device, like a ruler or measuring cup.

[ChuteTheMall]

I'm retired.

I don't care what people do.

[DAKA]

1 hour ago, ChuteTheMall said:

I'm retired.

I don't care what people do.

Me too, BUT the CRUISE SHIPS leave at 5 PM

[gwalchmai]

13 hours ago, DAKA said:

Me too, BUT the CRUISE SHIPS leave at 5 PM

Gives you time to have dinner before you leave, huh?

[railfancwb]

16 hours ago, ChuteTheMall said:

I'm retired.

I don't care what people do.

Unfortunately - or fortunately - those of us who are retired must still interact with those still governed by clocks. 

[minderasr]

1 hour ago, railfancwb said:

Unfortunately - or fortunately - those of us who are retired must still interact with those still governed by clocks. 

De we really?

[LostinTexas]

1 hour ago, minderasr said:

De we really?

Yes, but for the most part, we get to do it on our time, not theirs.

I have to call about a question today, and will get to it after lunch. For now I'm enjoying coffee and silence.

Hope you are enjoying. 

[DAKA]

Yeah, well...the range opens at 10 and you want to get there early of have an hour wait...

[Borg warner]

On 10/31/2022 at 10:05 AM, janice6 said:

Correlation does not imply causation:  The phrase “correlation does not imply causation” is often used in statistics to point out that correlation between two variables does not necessarily mean that one variable causes the other to occur.    https://www.statology.org/correlation-does-not-imply-causation-examples/

Example 1: Ice Cream Sales & Shark Attacks

If we collect data for monthly ice cream sales and monthly shark attacks around the United States each year, we would find that the two variables are highly correlated.

Does this mean that consuming ice cream causes shark attacks?

I do agree with the intent of the article!

"Does this mean that consuming ice cream causes shark attacks?" Yes, according to Liberal Logic, which also dictates that guns are the cause of crime in the same way that flies are the cause of garbage.

[deputy tom]

Today I woke up as I usually do. The only thing different was the clock said 4 o'clock instead of 5 o'clock. tom.

[minderasr]

I wouldn't mind it one bit if we ditched DST once and for all.

[janice6]

I hate changing the clocks.  One of my clocks cannot be moved backwards without damaging the movement.  So I have to go 1/2 hour intervals to allow the chimes to complete before moving again.  This is a serious first world problem I tell you!

[DAKA]

Stop the clock

15 minutes ago, janice6 said:

I hate changing the clocks.  One of my clocks cannot be moved backwards without damaging the movement.  So I have to go 1/2 hour intervals to allow the chimes to complete before moving again.  This is a serious first world problem I tell you!

 

[janice6]

22 minutes ago, DAKA said:

Stop the clock

 

Wife has an obsession about clocks.  I have made her custom clocks, and some just for fun.  Over our living room window are three identical clocks.  I made the frames to fit the location.  One clock displays hours, one minutes, and one seconds.  The clock I mentioned in my post is a copy of an old school clock that I made for her.  We have quite an assortment of clocks and that is why I hate DST, 'cause I spend considerable time changing the time on all the clocks scattered all around the house.

One is three foot across and occupies one-half of the living room wall.  I built it into the sheet rock and the numerals are attached to the wall.  I like it next to the TV.  I guess I'm complicite in this.

[Batesmotel]

Close enough for retired guys. 

[railfancwb]

10 minutes ago, Batesmotel said:

Close enough for retired guys. 

Understand small ones are available for wrist wear or pocket carry. 

[railfancwb]

12 minutes ago, Batesmotel said:

Close enough for retired guys. 

Appears the pointy thing can be moved right to the I then left to the XII to deal with DST. 

[Batesmotel]

2 hours ago, railfancwb said:

Understand small ones are available for wrist wear or pocket carry. 

Yes. They have a compass to orient them. 

[Batesmotel]

[gwalchmai]

12 hours ago, Batesmotel said:

Close enough for retired guys. 

DST on cloudy days?