Maser Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 i`m Okay with that Ending.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, holyjohnson said: i`m Okay with that Ending.. Cops in the video obviously didn't know he was carrying gas in his backpack, so I'm not faulting them. However, I have seen a few other vids where cops see someone pouring gas on themselves because they're suicidal and threaten to light themselves up if the cops come any closer and what do the cops do? They tase the guy and wonder why he caught on fire. In a case like that, qualified immunity needs to go out the window and cops should be charged with intentional homicide because I find it very hard to believe that someone could be that stupid to think it would be okay to tase someone who is clearly very flammable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Maser said: Cumbustable propellant in the pepper spray? I have seen some pressure cans list butane or propane as the propellant. I don't know about pepper spray. Then ignited by the taser? Does seem a bit much for a gas, more like a liquid. What released the liquid? Don't do the crime - Don't do the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Maser said: I have seen a few other vids where cops see someone pouring gas on themselves because they're suicidal and threaten to light themselves up if the cops come any closer and what do the cops do? should they have used the sidearm instead? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, janice6 said: Cumbustable propellant in the pepper spray? I have seen some pressure cans list butane or propane as the propellant. I don't know about pepper spray. Then ignited by the taser? Don't do the crime - Don't do the time! 2 minutes ago, holyjohnson said: should they have used the sidearm instead? The onus is on the criminal since the cop doesn't know what cumbustables the criminal may have, if any. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 one more question what was he using for a fuel container in his backpack that leaked so readily? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, janice6 said: Cumbustable propellant in the pepper spray? I have seen some pressure cans list butane or propane as the propellant. I don't know about pepper spray. Then ignited by the taser? Does seem a bit much for a gas, more like a liquid. What released the liquid? Don't do the crime - Don't do the time! By gas, I meant gasoline. He had a container of gasoline in his backpack which either broke open after he jumped off the bike or like what's said in the video description, the taser probes poked through the container. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, holyjohnson said: should they have used the sidearm instead? No, they should have used a tactic known as de-escalating the situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Maser said: By gas, I meant gasoline. He had a container of gasoline in his backpack which either broke open after he jumped off the bike or like what's said in the video description, the taser probes poked through the container. I didn't catch that he was carrying gasoline in the back pack. I have a bad hearing problem so I guess it's due to that. thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Maser said: No, they should have used a tactic known as de-escalating the situation. wasn't that the use of the Fire Extinguisher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, janice6 said: I didn't catch that he was carrying gasoline in the back pack. I have a bad hearing problem so I guess it's due to that. thanks for the clarification. It's not said in the actual video, but rather in the video description. When I first saw the vid when it was shown on a podcast, I had no clue what happened. I was expecting the cop car chasing him to bump him off the road or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 1 minute ago, holyjohnson said: wasn't that the use of the Fire Extinguisher? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyzz Kydd Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I have zero sympathy for this moron. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 14 hours ago, Maser said: Cops in the video obviously didn't know he was carrying gas in his backpack, so I'm not faulting them. However, I have seen a few other vids where cops see someone pouring gas on themselves because they're suicidal and threaten to light themselves up if the cops come any closer and what do the cops do? They tase the guy and wonder why he caught on fire. In a case like that, qualified immunity needs to go out the window and cops should be charged with intentional homicide because I find it very hard to believe that someone could be that stupid to think it would be okay to tase someone who is clearly very flammable. Anyone pouring gasoline on themselves has a death wish to start with, might say their looking for suicide by cop. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Cicero Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I get tired of hearing, "They should have de-escalated the situation instead of tasing/shooting/sitting on him." The videos don't show all the attempts to de-escalate before it was clear the nutter wasn't going to allow that. Sometimes, people are too drunk, high, stupid, or crazy for verbal de-escalation to work. And if faced with some drunk, high, stupid, or crazy person who wants to fight and is too irrational to feel any pain - tasing may be a better choice than going hands-on simply on the level of the number of people who will be injured (both people fighting, or just the idiot resisting). Also, I don't mind Darwin awards going to people stupid enough to fill a backpack with gasoline, drive their motorcycle in a manner that endangers others, and fail to stop for the cops. I mean, it would be nice if there were basic levels of common sense and human decency that were necessary to live long enough to reproduce. JMHO, YMMV. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuteTheMall Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/22/2022 at 9:31 PM, holyjohnson said: should they have used the sidearm instead? armor-piercing incendary rounds for the win. On 10/22/2022 at 9:49 PM, Maser said: No, they should have used a tactic known as de-escalating the situation. Yeah, clearly a job for a social justice warrior. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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