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Farmers to Be Replaced? John Deere Aiming for Fully Automated Row Farming by 2030


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"“I’m all for innovation, and I think John Deere is a helluva company, but they’re trying to be the Facebook of farming,” Kenney said."

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/farmers-replaced-john-deere-aiming-fully-automated-row-farming-2030

"Wired also pointed out that “Deere did not say how much the new tractor will cost; its most expensive current models can run up to $800,000,” but the company is looking at several options, including a “subscription plan” for the new autonomous equipment."

 

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1 hour ago, ChuteTheMall said:

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I ate at an old tavern in Morgantown. PA.  The city claimed to be home of the "Morgan Horse".  Funny thing was that I even knew about Morgan Horses from discussions with my father who was a farmer in his younger years.

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The Cousins Harvesting crew coming home to roost.  They went back the next day to Montana and picked up the rest of the equipment.  Very big custom harvesting from Texas to ND.   John Deere also gives them an experimental due to the fact that they harvest 18-20 hours per day.

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no surprises here.

Every time they raise the minimum wage, it becomes less cost effective to hire real people, and more effective to buy/lease machines to do the same thing.

The machine doesn't need medical, dental, paid time off, retirement fund, or additional time spent figuring out all the convoluted taxes and laws that go with having employees.

 

I'd imagine if it wasn't for the EPA repeatedly moving the goal posts for emissions compliance, and causing the equipment costs to skyrocket, then we'd already have this a lot more widespread than it is.

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I worked for New Holland Farm Machinery for my company (a very large military supplier seeing new markets for new profits) for a time.  We were looking at adding to their technology.  The problem isn't caused by a desire to run the farmer out of business.  It caused by a desire to keep improving profits for the supplier and the farmer, by coming up with new techniques and technology to allow the farmer to do more with less overhead.

This means that you have to come up with machinery that can do more for the farmer during the working day, and increase his profits so he can afford to buy more of your machinery to, again, accomplish more and allow  him to spend less hours per day in the field.

What happens is that you try to automate more and more of his operation, so that he can do more acres per day and as a side benefit, maybe give him more down time to relax.

The end result is that you finally do what John Deere has claimed.  You automate his farm to the extent that he is now a computer operator and controls everything from a laptop or desktop.  Most of the new farm equipment contains a form of laptop to run the equipment internally.

Unfortunately, as the complexity of the equipment evolves the cost evolves along with it.  Finally you the farmer, cannot afford the cost and to be competitive, you must contract some of your autonomy away to get the equipment.

This now results in the equipment manufacturer owning the controlling interest of your farm business and you are now relegated to employee status, figuratively, not literally.

So in the interest of improved efficiency you have lost your autonomy to your supplier along with your individuality and independence.  The drive to increase profits has eaten you up and now everyone supplying you own everything you have.

Isn't capitalism wonderful?................

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8 hours ago, janice6 said:

I worked for New Holland Farm Machinery for my company (a very large military supplier seeing new markets for new profits) for a time.  We were looking at adding to their technology.  The problem isn't caused by a desire to run the farmer out of business.  It caused by a desire to keep improving profits for the supplier and the farmer, by coming up with new techniques and technology to allow the farmer to do more with less overhead.

This means that you have to come up with machinery that can do more for the farmer during the working day, and increase his profits so he can afford to buy more of your machinery to, again, accomplish more and allow  him to spend less hours per day in the field.

What happens is that you try to automate more and more of his operation, so that he can do more acres per day and as a side benefit, maybe give him more down time to relax.

The end result is that you finally do what John Deere has claimed.  You automate his farm to the extent that he is now a computer operator and controls everything from a laptop or desktop.  Most of the new farm equipment contains a form of laptop to run the equipment internally.

Unfortunately, as the complexity of the equipment evolves the cost evolves along with it.  Finally you the farmer, cannot afford the cost and to be competitive, you must contract some of your autonomy away to get the equipment.

This now results in the equipment manufacturer owning the controlling interest of your farm business and you are now relegated to employee status, figuratively, not literally.

So in the interest of improved efficiency you have lost your autonomy to your supplier along with your individuality and independence.  The drive to increase profits has eaten you up and now everyone supplying you own everything you have.

Isn't capitalism wonderful?................

Capitalism isn’t perfect but it is still more free than the alternatives.  And you are missing the part at the end where competition between the equipment suppliers like NH and JD drives the cost of equipment down so the farmer doesn’t have to trade away his autonomy.  Also the part where expensive equipment isn’t economical if food/produce prices won’t support it, and/or if paying a human to drive it isn’t cheaper.  Of course, with the Fed mucking about with the money supply that could happen… but that’s not capitalism.

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