pipedreams Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Without natural gas in homes, all heating will instead rely on electricity. And it is already a demonstrated fact that windmills and solar panels will never produce enough energy to power everything, including EVs, with electricity. https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/california-adopts-comprehensive-strategy-meet-federal-ozone-standard-over-next-15-years https://www.technocracy.news/california-air-resources-board-carb-voted-to-ban-natural-gas-heaters-and-furnaces-by-2030/ Here is the typical condition of a major wind farm in southern California. Note the broken and frozen towers. They had towers in this pass over twenty years ago and they were experiencing the same problem back then as now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, pipedreams said: Without natural gas in homes, all heating will instead rely on electricity. And it is already a demonstrated fact that windmills and solar panels will never produce enough energy to power everything, including EVs, with electricity. https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/california-adopts-comprehensive-strategy-meet-federal-ozone-standard-over-next-15-years https://www.technocracy.news/california-air-resources-board-carb-voted-to-ban-natural-gas-heaters-and-furnaces-by-2030/ Here is the typical condition of a major wind farm in southern California. Note the broken and frozen towers. They had towers in this pass over twenty years ago and they were experiencing the same problem back then as now. Good. that means more natural gas for the rest of the states............. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minervadoe Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Another stupid law brought by stupid California politicians. Our electric grid already is not up to the task of running air conditioners on hot days. PG&E requested customers not to use air conditioners, dishwashers, electric dryers, or electric stoves during the hours of 4 PM to 9 PM. The government has required them to become more dependent on wind and solar power. The 'request' to use less electricity is a direct result of solar power becoming less efficient as the sun goes down. From September 5th through 9th of this year, the only reason that the electric grid did not fail was because record numbers of Californians shut down their high electric use items. But, even with that, the grid very nearly failed. Now, California is requiring more and more new cars sold each year to be electric. In 2026, 35% of all new cars must be electric. By 2035, it will be 100%. Couple that with the requirement that all new furnaces sold after 2030 be electric powered and failure is a certainty. Too many California politicians believe they can behave like Captain Picard and simply wave their hands at utility companies and say "make it so number Two." Just like the t.v. show, this is pure fantasy. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silentpoet Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, minervadoe said: Too many California politicians believe they can behave like Captain Picard and simply wave their hands and utility companies and say "make it so number Two." They have definitely made it a number 2. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minervadoe Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Silentpoet said: They have definitely made it a number 2. ... and it is going to hit the fan. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 hours ago, janice6 said: Good. that means more natural gas for the rest of the states............. They will just move out and invade the rest of the country. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 California may have a death wish, common sense and logic seems to have died there. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 It's CALIFORNIA land of the PUFFED UP and MAKE BELIEVE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minervadoe Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Electric vehicles are exploding from water damage after Hurricane Ian, top Florida official warns Florida's chief fire marshal and financial officer said there are a 'ton of EVs disabled' from Hurricane Ian A top Florida state official warned Thursday that firefighters have battled a number of fires caused by electric vehicle (EV) batteries waterlogged from Hurricane Ian. EV batteries that have been waterlogged in the wake of the hurricane are at risk of corrosion, which could lead to unexpected fires, according to Jimmy Patronis, the state's top financial officer and fire marshal. "There’s a ton of EVs disabled from Ian. As those batteries corrode, fires start," Patronis tweeted Thursday. "That’s a new challenge that our firefighters haven’t faced before. At least on this kind of scale." "It takes special training and understanding of EVs to ensure these fires are put out quickly and safely," he continued in a follow-up tweet. "Thanks to [North Collier Fire Rescue] for their hard work." Patronis published a video of firefighters in Naples, Florida, battling a fire started from a Tesla EV's battery. A bystander is overheard in the video saying that the crew had used hundreds of gallons of water attempting to put the fire out. Last week, Hurricane Ian pummeled cities along Florida's west coast including Naples and Fort Myers, making landfall as a Category 4 storm. The hurricane caused more than 100 deaths and over a million residents to lose power. It is unclear how many EVs were impacted or destroyed by the storm. Meanwhile, consumers are increasingly turning to EVs as the Biden administration continues to push a green transition involving zero-emission cars. Between April and June, EVs accounted for 5.6% of new car purchases in the U.S., up slightly from the first three months of 2022, according to Kelley Blue Book. Shortly after taking office, President Biden announced a goal of ensuring that 50% of new car sales would be EVs by 2030. The Biden administration has also taken a number of steps to incentivize Americans to shift to EVs. The president signed the Inflation Reduction Act, a bill that included a provision that awards Americans a tax credit worth $7,500 per EV purchase, into law in August, and the Department of Transportation has worked to create a federal EV highway charging network. However, critics have blasted the administration for giving a "false impression" about EVs, noting that they are expensive and often unreliable. "[The EV push] is really kind of a con job," Myron Ebell, the director of the Competitive Enterprise Institute's Center for Energy and Environment, told FOX Business in July. "It may be a good deal for some people in some places under some circumstances. But by-and-large right now, it's not a good deal." https://www.foxnews.com/politics/electric-vehicles-exploding-water-damage-hurricane-ian-top-florida-official-warns 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 11:28 PM, Batesmotel said: They will just move out and invade the rest of the country. Exactly, and vote ther same way that screwed up Cali. On 9/26/2022 at 7:36 PM, janice6 said: Good. that means more natural gas for the rest of the states............. That means another wave of Californians to invade the rest of the country. CARB rulings have done more to turn California to a third world country as anything else. Their mandates are now spilling over into the rest of the country. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Cicero Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 What moron gave the California Air Resources Board the right to make ANY product illegal in the state? 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Cali has been a drag on the rest of the country for a long time now and I'm getting real tired of their ****. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Here's a thought, If you live in an "apartment house", but on a low floor....would you want EV's parked in the garage under the building? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, DAKA said: Here's a thought, If you live in an "apartment house", but on a low floor....would you want EV's parked in the garage under the building? Not sure the floor you lived on would matter much. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 What about propane? Is it banned also? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Wait till this goes into effect and watch the next Mexican revolution occur in CA! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 20 minutes ago, janice6 said: Wait till this goes into effect and watch the next Mexican revolution occur in CA! VIVA TRUMPATA!! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 2 hours ago, janice6 said: Wait till this goes into effect and watch the next Mexican revolution occur in CA! It will have to be the Mexicans that revolt. Revolution requires tough men committed to freedom and the willingness to fight for it. There are no such men, er, males, uh, dudes -- birthing people, left in California. Which means that when the first shot is fired, all of those wusses will flee east and destroy us. We'll stop 'em at Texas, but Arizona and New Mexico are doomed. Mebbe Nevada and Colorado. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricordo Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Climate change is worse than I thought. It's even affecting conditions in the moon. Just take a look at 1AM and 3AM. https://i.postimg.cc/63KNPT55/58-DBC4-CC-7-ACB-4-E7-D-A284-3-E0-B5-DAD803-F.jpg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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