Straw Purchase question.

[LostinTexas]

2 minutes ago, tous said:

One entry has me puzzled:  what is the difference between latino and hispanic?

Quick, name another amendment to the Constitution that guarantees rights for the citizen that requires government permission to exercise.

I'll wait over here for your answer.

Form 4473 will soon be revised to include :  did you vote for Donald Trump?

Have you ever been to a Trump rally?

Have you ever failed to use a person's preferred pronoun?

Have you ever posted a mean meme in any on-line forum?

 

Now it asks if you are white, and if you answer yes, it asks if you are Hispanic or not. Really?

[Batesmotel]

The form I filled out today was electronic on a tablet. It asked gender. Choices were M, F or something else. I don’t remember if it was Other, unspecified etc. But there was a third choice. 

[Fog]

I straw purchased some gas for a guy who ran out and was trying to get home to his sick wife. I sorta know the couple and she is sick. He didn't ask for money, just gas in his rig. 

Far as I know he could legally buy gas, having valid drivers license and all...dunno...maybe I'll get raided in the middle of the night.

[Batesmotel]

IIRC from my days as a teacher, Latino was native heritage, Hispanic was heritage from the Spanish. Some kids didn’t make a distinction and didn’t really care. Some got REAL uptight about it even though the difference was real hazy. I was always confused about it. To me they were just kids. 

[tous]

That form was racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic and Islamophobic.

Everyone knows that there are 322 genders -- so far.

[Batesmotel]

My wife doesn’t know about it yet. It is for her and my daughter to shoot. Maybe I can soften the blow by saying it is her Yom Kippur gift?

I’m just glad I married a shooter. 

[railfancwb]

7 hours ago, LostinTexas said:

Now it asks if you are white, and if you answer yes, it asks if you are Hispanic or not. Really?

The class “Native American” was removed at some point, when it was realized that anyone born in the States is a Native American. 

[Ricordo]

9 hours ago, tous said:

what is the difference between latino and hispanic?

I have no idea WTF that means.

Perhaps it should be amended as follows:

Hispanic or Latino or Latinx.

You know....for clarity...

As to the gender question, I believe that they should include all 1,234 genders.

You know...for clarity....

[railfancwb]

Technically no one who identifies as American Indian can be identified as Latin anything, since Latin is European. (Yes I know American Indian is a politically incorrect term. It is also unambiguous.)

[Walt Longmire]

1 hour ago, railfancwb said:

Technically no one who identifies as American Indian can be identified as Latin anything, since Latin is European. (Yes I know American Indian is a politically incorrect term. It is also unambiguous.)

Out west they are called Wagon Burners.

[Fog]

7 hours ago, Walt Longmire said:

Out west they are called Wagon Burners.

I have heard that some western states still have laws on the books allowing indians to be shot from covered wagons.

[Silentpoet]

On 9/23/2022 at 11:52 PM, tous said:

I am not a lawyer so this is my opinion only, but I have read far too many DoD contracts, so I am somewhat familiar with lawyer gobbledygook.

The two cases are not related.

Abranski v United States  was specifically about the straw purchase statute.

New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v Bruen  was about the onerous requirements that New York state imposed on those state citizen's right to firearm ownership, public carrying  and self-defense.

Abranski was a hippie Marxist travesty intended to restrict constitutional rights.  It succeeded.

Bruen was a victory on paper only.  Just after the decision was published, New York state created dozens of new laws restricting gun ownership and the right of self-defense out of thin air.

They employ the 'strike down the law on appeal one at a time and we'll just make another one for them to appeal' strategy.

Remember, these appeals take years and unless  a superior or appellate court issues an injunction, the restrictive laws stand.

 

Good question.

 

The problem is that the new "straw purchase" law or regulation violates clear text and history of the 2nd as it has been interpreted in the past.  The restriction as talked about in this discussion is new, within the last decade.

[tous]

The Founding Fathers likely never anticipated petty, career bureaucrats altering or ignoring laws by declaring an update to existing regulations.

Sort of avoids all that Congress, President, will of the people route.

The BATFE and the EPA are well-known for this tactic to pass laws without ever having to pass a  law and certainly without the hassle of consulting Congress.

 

 

 

[Fog]

1 hour ago, tous said:

The Founding Fathers likely never anticipated petty, career bureaucrats altering or ignoring laws by declaring an update to existing regulations.

Sort of avoids all that Congress, President, will of the people route.

The BATFE and the EPA are well-known for this tactic to pass laws without ever having to pass a  law and certainly without the hassle of consulting Congress.

 

 

 

They most certainly did anticipate it and that is why they gave us the 2nd