DAKA Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 just wondering - Hurricane season with Electric Vehicles Something to think about ……….. Imagine Florida (Not only Florida) with a hurricane coming toward Miami. The governor orders an evacuation. All cars head north. They all need to be charged in Jacksonville. How does that work.? Has anyone thought about this. If all cars were electric and were caught up in a three-hour traffic jam with dead batteries, then what.? Not to mention that there's virtually no heating or air conditioning in an electric vehicle because of high battery consumption. If you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drains the batteries), all you can do is try calling 911 to take women and children to safety. But they cannot come to help you because all roads are blocked, and they will probably require all police cars will be electric also. When the roads become unblocked no one can move.! Their batteries are dead. How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam.? Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams. Yes, AAA is starting to prepare tow trucks to charge electric vehicles. How many can they charge before returning to home base and recharge the trucks.? There would be virtually no air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain the batteries quickly. Where is this electricity going to come from.? Today's grid barely handles users' needs. Can't use nuclear, natural gas is quickly running out. Oil fired is out of the question, then where? What will be done with billions of dead batteries, can’t bury them in the soil, can’t go to landfills. The cart is way ahead of the horse. No thought whatsoever to handle any of the problems that batteries can cause. The press doesn't want to talk or report on any of this. *************RESISTANCE IS NOT FUTILE” - Send this to every one 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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minervadoe Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 38 minutes ago, DAKA said: Has anyone thought about this. Yup. Traffic jams: People will freeze to death in the winter, and roast in the summer. The roads will be lined with cars with dead batteries. Imagine the black market for parts taken off of these abandoned vehicles. 38 minutes ago, DAKA said: What will be done with billions of dead batteries, can’t bury them in the soil, can’t go to landfills. Here's my prized scenario. You can't afford the price of an average new car ($40,000) so you buy a used one for (let's say) $20,000. You've had it for a few days before you realize that it's batteries need to be replaced. So, how much for that? Estimates vary. One site I found claimed. $6,200 to replace the batteries in a $27,000 Nissan Leaf. $2,850 for Hyundai Ioniq $2,7000 for Toyota Prius $16,000 for a Tesla Model 3 How much is it going to cost to dispose of the battery legally? I don't know, but I assume there will be a fee and some people are likely to just dump them illegally. But, Autoweek stated: Quote In 2016, studies found that the cost of a typical EV battery replacement could reach $10,000 or more, which is on par with the cost to replace a gas engine in traditional cars. https://www.autoweek.com/news/a38658350/how-much-do-ev-batteries-cost/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, minervadoe said: Yup. Traffic jams: People will freeze to death in the winter, and roast in the summer. The roads will be lined with cars with dead batteries. Imagine the black market for parts taken off of these abandoned vehicles. It's going to be SPECTACULAR! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_ml Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 2 hours ago, minervadoe said: Yup. Traffic jams: People will freeze to death in the winter, and roast in the summer. The roads will be lined with cars with dead batteries. Imagine the black market for parts taken off of these abandoned vehicles. Here's my prized scenario. You can't afford the price of an average new car ($40,000) so you buy a used one for (let's say) $20,000. You've had it for a few days before you realize that it's batteries need to be replaced. So, how much for that? Estimates vary. One site I found claimed. $6,200 to replace the batteries in a $27,000 Nissan Leaf. $2,850 for Hyundai Ioniq $2,7000 for Toyota Prius $16,000 for a Tesla Model 3 How much is it going to cost to dispose of the battery legally? I don't know, but I assume there will be a fee and some people are likely to just dump them illegally. But, Autoweek stated: https://www.autoweek.com/news/a38658350/how-much-do-ev-batteries-cost/ Wasn't there a thread recently showing the invoice from a repair shop to replace the battery in a Chevy Bolt with 78k miles on it being $29k for battery, other parts, labor... Those prices above are likely outdated, or wholesale cost of the battery (or both) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minervadoe Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Cougar_ml said: Wasn't there a thread recently showing the invoice from a repair shop to replace the battery in a Chevy Bolt with 78k miles on it being $29k for battery, other parts, labor... Those prices above are likely outdated, or wholesale cost of the battery (or both) Ouch!! That's unforgivable. What a joke. And here in California, it is a government mandated joke. That's helpful. I'd be willing to bet that companies selling EVs want to cover up the actual costs that consumers are going to be forced to absorb. Plus, the electrical grid cannot support the current load. EVs are going to make it some much worse. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/wsj-editorial-board-california-s-blackouts-are-a-result-of-man-made-climate-policies-not-climate-change/ar-AA11CTT3?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=dc4b09343bc34910a453b01fe2876d33 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DAKA Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 On 9/9/2022 at 5:48 PM, gwalchmai said: It's going to be SPECTACULAR! Hmm, That word always reminds me of an episode of 3 1/2 men ??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, DAKA said: Hmm, That word always reminds me of an episode of 3 1/2 men ??? Seinfeld. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 11 hours ago, gwalchmai said: Seinfeld. YES "They're real and they're SPECTACULAR" I remember that from 2 1/2 men *********** OOPS 2 1/2 men not 3 1/2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pima Pants Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 As noted above, it was Seinfeld. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Perhaps California should suggest that they retrofit all of their rods and highways with slots and electric strips beside the slots. Then, all automobiles won't need gasoline or batteries; all they need is a shoe to fit the slot, some brushes underneath to contact the electric strips and they get power to go -- carbon-free, zero-emission. Yes, let us convert California to a giant slot car track. Changing lanes or switching roads might be a problem, as would driving out-of-state, but California's leaders are not in the problem solving business. They have the vision for the perfect society, let the peons adjust and live with it. Of course, like the slot car tracks of old, if you go too fast, especially around curves, you leave the highway and may well end up in Nevada before you stop rolling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, tous said: Perhaps California should suggest that they retrofit all of their rods and highways with slots and electric strips beside the slots. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 That, mi amigo, is a brilliant idea! Declare that as of a certain date, all California roads, streets and highways are a Demolition Derby and all automobiles registered in California must enter. Weeks later, or however long it takes, the last car running wins and they not only get to keep their car, they get Gavin Newsom's sweater to wear during heat waves during black outs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 10:08 AM, minderasr said: Reminds me of this song… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Pima Pants said: As noted above, it was Seinfeld. Pretty sure it was 2 1/2 men, I can picture the scene, she shows up at Charlies and reminds them that they had a nickname for her in High School, she was a chubette, and she now looks like this...and says something like you can't have any of this...... You gonna make me look at every episode to fine it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minderasr Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, DAKA said: Pretty sure it was 2 1/2 men, I can picture the scene, she shows up at Charlies and reminds them that they had a nickname for her in High School, she was a chubette, and she now looks like this...and says something like you can't have any of this...... You gonna make me look at every episode to fine it? It's definitely Seinfeld. The episode where Jerry asks Elaine to find out if the boobies are real. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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