NOAA predicted more hurricanes this season

[LostinTexas]

2 hours ago, Huaco Kid said:

Depending on a lot of factors, it's generally like adding another central air conditioning unit to your house.

Maybe, but where? AC cost in Texas is a tad more than Mn., usually. Recon out on the road?

I know the guy was "just a lineman", but he probably has a little more know than the average internet shmuck for the power requirements, or any other average shmuck. LOL. Then there is the cost of adding a 50amp+ service to the house, if you want a charged battery in the morning.

Way too many things to consider besides the price of the auto and where will you find to plug it in. I think a lot of fanboys and empty parroters are going to be very shocked when it comes down to it. 

[tous]

7 minutes ago, LostinTexas said:

Way too many things to consider besides the price of the auto and where will you find to plug it in.

But -- but, haven't you heard?

The government will provide a nationwide network of charging stations and -- you can charge your car for free!

I bet that in a few years, the government will pay to replace your battery, too.

Hippie Marxist paradise, doncha know.

[LostinTexas]

9 minutes ago, tous said:

But -- but, haven't you heard?

The government will provide a nationwide network of charging stations and -- you can charge your car for free!

I bet that in a few years, the government will pay to replace your battery, too.

Hippie Marxist paradise, doncha know.

I hear Uncle Joe's head rattling, but I don't recall ever hearing the "Free" part. Just assumed by the socialists that probably can't buy the thing anyway.

I know some folks here, or on some forum I cruise have them, and most were quite vocal when they got them, but haven't said too much since. I would just be speculating as to why, and if you are in an environment of short trips and city services, they may make perfect since. Still going to be a long haul on the trade off for price.

We might ask Eric to move the later comments to another thread since we seem to be hijacking this one.

[tous]

Ask the French about purchasing EVs for municipal service.

They have a a field full of them; with dead batteries that are too expensive to replace.

Europe went stupid with climate change nonsense for the past twenty years.

They received a great ESG score.

We'll be sure ask them how that's working when they're freezing this winter and can only afford food for two weeks out of the month.

 

[LostinTexas]

2 minutes ago, tous said:

Ask the French about purchasing EVs for municipal service.

They have a a field full of them; with dead batteries that are too expensive to replace.

Europe went stupid with climate change nonsense for the past twenty years.

They received a great ESG score.

We'll be sure ask them how that's working when they're freezing this winter and can onlyafford food for two weeks out of the month.

 

I saw that picture of the "one of many" fields in France? It was making rounds and the Libs were screeching like a Banshee that is was false. Trouble is, look it up several different ways and on several different search engines and they all say about the same.

[DAKA]

13 hours ago, tous said:

But -- but, haven't you heard?

The government will provide a nationwide network of charging stations and -- you can charge your car for free!

I bet that in a few years, the government will pay to replace your battery, too.

Hippie Marxist paradise, doncha know.

Promise whatever...those "promisers" will have become multimillionaires (as they all do), retire from .gov and buy a WATERFRONT MANSION IN MARTHA'S VINEYARD (and also get their pensions)

Oh and the PROMISES                         You silly ass, you believed me......

SCUM SUCKING POLITICIANS should all get incredibly painful boils in places the sun don't shine 

[DAKA]

 

Oopppps

 

REUTERS FACT CHECK

MAY 19, 20214:33 AMUPDATED A YEAR AGO

Fact Check-Electric cars taken off French roads due to contract termination, not battery fault

By Reuters Fact Check

5 MIN READ

Dozens of electric cars were left in a field in France because the company’s contract with local authorities ran out and not because of an issue with their battery storage cells as social media users questioning the environmental benefits of electric cars are claiming.

The posts (here , here , here) show pictures of the cars, with the caption: “This is a boneyard near Paris, France with hundreds of electric powered cars. […] All of these have the same issue… the battery storage cells have given out and need to be replaced. […] So, these green fairy tale electric cars are sitting in vacant lots while their batteries drain toxins into the ground. Still think we need to go green???”

These posts are being shared as U.S. President Joe Biden plans to make the case for his $174 billion electric vehicle plan, calling for government grants for new battery production facilities (here).

The logo on the cars shows that they are from “Autolib”, a fleet of electric cars used in a car-sharing scheme in Paris and the surrounding suburbs that was launched in 2011 and had 150,000 active users who could take out the cars when they needed.

 

As reported by Reuters here , Parisian authorities ended the Bollore group’s contract to operate the Autolib electric vehicle fleet in June 2018 due to financial difficulties. Persistent issues with cleanliness, problems with parking and booking as well as competition from other modes of transport such as Uber pushed the service into the red, with cumulated losses of 293 million euros expected by 2023.

French media reports here , here and here which show pictures of the cars lined up in a field like those in the social media posts, explain that the termination of the contract meant that Bollore had to remove its 4,000 vehicles from the Paris region to Romorantin-Lanthenay, 200 kms (124 miles) south of Paris. Bollore sold the cars, most of them going to two companies, Autopuzz, which resells the cars throughout France, and Atis Production.

On claims about soil pollution risk posed by the cars, Paul Aouizerate, head of Atis Production, told France Info here “Our vehicles are properly stored. The firefighters are aware, the construction site is well organized. All the batteries have been removed and the connectors are isolated.”

He added that the cars were not going to a junkyard. Autopuzz told France TV Info it is reselling the cars to buyers across France at a rate of 50 per month (here).

 

[Ricordo]

OMG! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!

 

[Valmet]

Been planning a camping trip with old friends for months for next weekend and “hurricane” weather is threatening those plans even here in VA with downpours...

[LostinTexas]

Y'alll hang on to your golf carts in Florida. Looks like Ian is going to be a slow mover, and that is not a good thing when wind and rain can pile up over a long period. I know most don't take hurricanes serious, and probably because you've ridden so many out, kinda like us running outside to look at the tornado, and they weren't that bad, but this one could be different.

I remember my first trip to Biloxi after Katrina. The coast was changed for ever, and buildings that had stood for no telling how long were gone, along with all the hurricane partiers in them. We were told that 2-3 of them had ZERO survivors. 

[ChuteTheMall]

Meanwhile, in downtown Tampa .....

[LostinTexas]

1 hour ago, ChuteTheMall said:

Meanwhile, in downtown Tampa .....

LOL, we would evac the offshore facilities with the most bluebird shies you ever saw. All the moisture was getting sucked into the storm.

Repopulated during some pretty sketchy weather though. People in an office 300+ miles away were worried about their production numbers.

[Mrs.Cicero]

With regard to the yearly predictions of "Worst year ever coming up!" - did NONE of the people shooting off their mouths EVER read the Boy Who Cried Wolf as a child?  They need to be beaten over the head with the books with that story in them...

because I no longer believe anything they say... 

[DAKA]

15 minutes ago, Mrs.Cicero said:

With regard to the yearly predictions of "Worst year ever coming up!" - did NONE of the people shooting off their mouths EVER read the Boy Who Cried Wolf as a child?  They need to be beaten over the head with the books with that story in them...

because I no longer believe anything they say... 

Unfortunately it becomes Ho Hum, but one day the storm will come and we will not be prepared because these Asswipes all need to get "FACE TIME

[DAKA]

3 hours ago, DAKA said:

Unfortunately it becomes Ho Hum, but one day the storm will come and we will not be prepared because these Asswipes all need to get "FACE TIME

In EVERYTHING "WE" here on B S are the VERY minority   

[Eric]

When did they start naming every cloud that pissed some rain?

on another note, I wonder if there would be any danger of electrocution if you drove your EV into a flood?

[janice6]

15 minutes ago, Eric said:

When did they start naming every cloud that pissed some rain?

on another note, I wonder if there would be any danger of electrocution if you drove your EV into a flood?

Think of a lightning strike on a car or truck.  The vehicle gets damaged but the occupant "mostly" doesn't.  The batteries would see leakage paths that shouldn't be there due to conductive water contamination.  The occupant isn't in a position to be part of the electrical circuit that is produced by the water.

I believe the batteries will experience failure, sudden/long term, but the occupant wouldn't, due to the path for errant currents being shorter between battery circuits than through the drive/occupants.

[railfancwb]

20 minutes ago, Eric said:

When did they start naming every cloud that pissed some rain?

on another note, I wonder if there would be any danger of electrocution if you drove your EV into a flood?

Probably more likely a fire if the battery was shorted. 

[Eric]

11 minutes ago, janice6 said:

Think of a lightning strike on a car or truck.  The vehicle gets damaged but the occupant "mostly" doesn't.  The batteries would see leakage paths that shouldn't be there due to conductive water contamination.  The occupant isn't in a position to be part of the electrical circuit that is produced by the water.

I believe the batteries will experience failure, sudden/long term, but the occupant wouldn't, due to the path for errant currents being shorter between battery circuits than through the drive/occupants.

A lightning strike isn’t really the same though. There are paths back to a ground source within the car, for the power in those batteries. I agree that it is unlikely that the mains power to the motors would find a path back through the passenger compartment, but who knows. Anyway, just an idle thought.

[GT4494]

And with the batteries for most cars under the passenger compartment the failure could lead to the same effect an electric grill starter does...   Crispy anyone???

[pipedreams]

On 9/24/2022 at 4:13 PM, LostinTexas said:

I'm sure they have a place. Right now isn't it in most cases. Undersupported, expensive, and pretty edgy. They certainly attract a niche crowd.

I'm looking forward to finding out just how much it costs to charge one. Folks act like it's free, and it may be in some cases, but from the VERY little I can find, and not having one to try it myself, they aren't that inexpensive to run. A little less than gasoline, but the difference will take a very long haul to make up for the the price and cost of operation. Then there is your time, the weather, and of course going places there is no charging.

 

The thing no one seems to talk about is annual license fees, my understanding it is high to compensate for no gas tax being paid.  Wonder how insurance coverage compares to regular gas vehicles, especially since there have been a few fires.

[LostinTexas]

30 minutes ago, pipedreams said:

The thing no one seems to talk about is annual license fees, my understanding it is high to compensate for no gas tax being paid.  Wonder how insurance coverage compares to regular gas vehicles, especially since there have been a few fires.

Several states have arranged for extra fees when registering the vehicles to make up for the gas tax. I've seen ranges of $100 to $250? per year.

Another consideration, and I haven't had to deal with it, and doubt I will, is the SRS disabling. What is operating it? In gas cars, disconnecting the battery was called for to disable it and protect rescuers if they hadn't fired off, and that happened a lot. Yes they were working properly, but it takes impact in certain places to deploy. 

Did they think far enough in advance to create a positive disabling connection? Will it be reachable? Cutting the main for an EV may be a dicey venture. They aren't exactly a 12V system. An airbag can ruin the rest of your life if you are out of position when it goes. 

Since insurance was questioned, that may be another consideration.

[LostinTexas]

Made me laugh.

[GT4494]

We do not want/need south Florida in Charleston!!!  

[Eric]

27 minutes ago, LostinTexas said:

Made me laugh.

Florida seems to be taking liberties with the Georgia coast.