DAKA Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 I'm trying to find out what it ACTUALLY COSTS to charge an EV from someone who has one Reading sites quoting costs depends on who's site... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holyjohnson Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, DAKA said: I'm trying to find out what it ACTUALLY COSTS to charge an EV from someone who has one Reading sites quoting costs depends on who's site... https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2021/10/21/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-vs-gas/6110815001/ https://www.myev.com/research/comparisons/comparing-public-electric-vehicle-charging-networks it depends a lot of the Model and the Level of Charging Station. i have been trying to talk my Employer to install a charger at Work for Plug-in EVs, mostly so i can buy one and not pay to use it. that to me is where they pay off, when you can charge it at work and don't have to at Home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norton Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 We have a charging station in the parking lot at the town hall/police station in the town where I live. It requires a credit card, but I don't know how much it costs. I have never seen it being used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS_Rider Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I've owned a Mach E for a month and a half now. I installed a level II EVSE in my garage. My first month electric bill was $38 higher than the same month last year. I put 700 miles on the car. I'll need 6 months to a year to get a more consistent average cost but that's what month one looks like. I've never used a public charger so I can't help you there. For road trips I'll probably take my ICE car for convenience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 hours ago, RS_Rider said: I've owned a Mach E for a month and a half now. I installed a level II EVSE in my garage. My first month electric bill was $38 higher than the same month last year. I put 700 miles on the car. I'll need 6 months to a year to get a more consistent average cost but that's what month one looks like. I've never used a public charger so I can't help you there. For road trips I'll probably take my ICE car for convenience. What distance between charges? What is the percent of empty when you charge? Is your daily driving - acceleration, speeds, stopping - significantly different between EV and ICE? Is your area more rural or more metro? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 #1. The world is going to hell in a hand basket. #2. I’ve never seen a post-apocalyptic movie with electric cars as the dominant mode of transportation for the winning side. I’ll stick to diesel. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Wasn’t that long ago that people in Texas - a major oil resource - were freezing and dying because solar and wind failed and other (steam) sources of electricity had been marginalized. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreams Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 11 hours ago, norton said: We have a charging station in the parking lot at the town hall/police station in the town where I live. It requires a credit card, but I don't know how much it costs. I have never seen it being used. Same here, seen a few of them but never seen one being used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 11 hours ago, RS_Rider said: I've owned a Mach E for a month and a half now. I installed a level II EVSE in my garage. My first month electric bill was $38 higher than the same month last year. I put 700 miles on the car. I'll need 6 months to a year to get a more consistent average cost but that's what month one looks like. I've never used a public charger so I can't help you there. For road trips I'll probably take my ICE car for convenience. That doesn't mean a lot. Compare kWh usage. Rates have over doubled here, and one must do a lot of shopping to keep cost under control. It really isn't a $$ and ¢¢ thing, it is usage in home. From what I can find on the internet, plan on pretty stiff rates on outsourced charging systems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Batesmotel said: #1. The world is going to hell in a hand basket. #2. I’ve never seen a post-apocalyptic movie with electric cars as the dominant mode of transportation for the winning side. I’ll stick to diesel. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Quick charging is getting insane! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWARREN123 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Fast charging usually causes the battery to heat up and can degrade the battery in some cases and with some batteries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 The problem of passing huge amounts of energy in a short time brings to mind a comparison. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent I kilogram = 2.2 lbs. of TNT 1 gallon of gasoline 83 sticks of Dynamite. https://www.purdue.edu/uns/html3month/1999/990604.Kingman.gasoline.html kilogram of TNT kg milliton of TNT mt 4.184×106 J or 4.184 megajoules 1.162 kWh 46.55 ng We have some experience in handling gasoline. When passing extreme amounts of electrical energy, we have little to no experience. A minor battery fault releases a huge amount of energy in the form of heat over a short time. This is just a reminder that we are discussing energy in large quantities! Energy released in large quantities over a short time is called and explosion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS_Rider Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 12 hours ago, railfancwb said: What distance between charges? What is the percent of empty when you charge? Is your daily driving - acceleration, speeds, stopping - significantly different between EV and ICE? Is your area more rural or more metro? The range on the GTPE is rated at 260 miles. Most if not all EV makers recommend keeping the battery between 10% and 90% charged. I've heard for battery longevity and to leave room for regen braking to put charge back in the battery. This leaves about 200 miles in real world range. Speeding will take a bite out of range. I'm more metro and morning commute on the highway is usually running a bit north of 80mph. I'd have to charge every two or three days, but I charge daily. It's effortless when I get home so why not start every day at 90%? One thing I've learned from people on the forums is cold weather kills range. People are talking about seeing their range drop by as much as a third in below freezing temps. Not a concern for me in Phoenix but people in those climates should be well informed before going electric. Acceleration is insane, like motorcycle fast. Brembo brakes are on point. What does take getting used to is one pedal drive. When you let off the go pedal the motors engine brake and transfer energy back to the battery. If you stay off the accelerator it will slow to a complete stop. It will also activate the brake lights while doing so. You can disable this feature and it drives the same as an ICE car but you'll lose some efficiency. It's an absolute blast to drive. Believe it or not I didn't set out to buy an EV. When I saw pictures of the car I really liked it and decided to find one to test drive. If Ford was making this car with a Coyote 5.0 it would be sitting in my garage today. As it stands they sold me on EV's. Only thing I don't like is them being forced on us by the government. This car is impressive enough to compete in the free market, so let it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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