Sumela Monastery

[Eric]

[Eric]

[Eric]

[Batesmotel]

Spain?

[Eric]

3 hours ago, Batesmotel said:

Spain?

Turkey. It was abandoned in 1923 by the Greek Christians that built it and occupied for centuries. Funny enough, the Turkish Ministry of Tourism doesn't say why it was abandoned, beyond a vague reference to a 'Citizen Exchange' agreement with Greece. The rest of the world called it genocide. In fact, the term genocide was coined specifically to describe the slaughter of Christians (mostly Armenian) and Jews carrried out by the Ottoman Empire/Turkey, around that time.

[railfancwb]

Resembles Mesa Verde cliff dwellings. About 1000 years newer and more refined technology but the reasons may be close. 

[ChuteTheMall]

26 minutes ago, railfancwb said:

Resembles Mesa Verde cliff dwellings. About 1000 years newer and more refined technology but the reasons may be close. 

Neither could get a hot pizza delivered within 30 minutes.

[railfancwb]

41 minutes ago, ChuteTheMall said:

Neither could get a hot pizza delivered within 30 minutes.

Today, though, we have drone delivery. 

[Eric]

12 minutes ago, railfancwb said:

Today, though, we have drone delivery. 

Yeah, Ukrainian troops have been having pretty good luck with Turkish drones.

[tous]

Off of the subject, but why is Turkey still in NATO?

During the Cold War, Turkey was a convenient launch pad into the Warsaw Pact countries for strategic nuclear weapons and a place to base US Naval and air forces to control the Black Sea.

I believe  that the US still has some aircraft-delivery, nuclear weapons at Turkish air bases and most will be too young to remember, but the US had ICBMs stationed in Turkey until Kennedy gave them away to the Soviet Union in return for removing and not replacing nuclear missiles in Cuba..

Under Erdogan's  rule for the past 20 years, Turkey is now for all intents and purposes (for all intensive porpoises for the  less-literate ), an Islamic state and hostile to US and NATO.

Erdogan has been sucking up to Putin and wanted to purchase Russian air defense hardware.

Screw 'em.

Kick them out of NATO, close the US bases, cut off the foreign aid let the Fins and Swedes in.

 

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[ChuteTheMall]

37 minutes ago, tous said:

 

Under Erdogan's  rule for the past 20 years, Turkey is now for all intents and purposes (for all intensive porpoises for the  less-literate ), an Islamic state and hostile to US and NATO

 

Turkey is supposed to be our ally against Iran in the mostly-Arab Muslim world.  I wouldn't trust them. They are a very strategic location, as has been noticed for a couple hundred centuries.

[Ay Dios Mio]

3 hours ago, Eric said:

Turkey. It was abandoned in 1923 by the Greek Christians that built it and occupied for centuries. Funny enough, the Turkish Ministry of Tourism doesn't say why it was abandoned, beyond a vague reference to a 'Citizen Exchange' agreement with Greece. The rest of the world called it genocide. In fact, the term genocide was coined specifically to describe the slaughter of Christians (mostly Armenian) and Jews carrried out by the Ottoman Empire/Turkey, around that time.

 

[Eric]

1 hour ago, Ay Dios Mio said:

 

Lemkin is most remembered for his efforts to codify and prosecute genocide during and after The Holocaust, but the Armenian Genocide was a powerful influence on him, from an early age.

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The origin of the term genocide and its codification in international law have their roots in the mass murder of Armenians in 1915–16. Lawyer Raphael Lemkin, the coiner of the word and later its champion at the United Nations, repeatedly stated that early exposure to newspaper stories about Ottoman crimes against Armenians was key to his beliefs about the need for legal protection of groups (a core element in the UN Genocide Convention of 1948).

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-armenian-genocide-1915-16-overview

 

Although the Genocide in the Ottoman Empire/Turkey is referred to and remembered as the Armenian Genocide, several ethnic groups were targeted. The number of deaths reported vary greatly from source to source, but as many as 300,000 Assyrian Christians and as many as 750,000 Greek Christians were murdered as well, along with as many as 1,200,000 Armenians. These were the two largest populations targeted, after the Armenians.