Walt Longmire Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/uvalde-shooting-the-cowards-in-stetsons/ar-AAXQuCR?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=1ba359dfe2cd4cad83297f301de2f2b1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 78 minutes these ******* waited. For a key supposedly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbie18 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I withhold judgement. I'll probably be wrong, but I withhold judgement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunboat1 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Whenever there is an active attacker in a place where innocent people are by law or policy disarmed, law enforcement MUST be trained and expected to IMMEDIATELY make entry and engage. Every second counts. THAT IS THE NATIONWIDE CHANGE IN POLICY THAT SHOULD COME AS A RESULT OF THE RECENT INCIDENT. Not some stupid, ineffective attempt to restrict firearms rights. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 27 minutes ago, Gunboat1 said: Whenever there is an active attacker in a place where innocent people are by law or policy disarmed, law enforcement MUST be trained and expected to IMMEDIATELY make entry and engage. Every second counts. THAT IS THE NATIONWIDE CHANGE IN POLICY THAT SHOULD COME AS A RESULT OF THE RECENT INCIDENT. Not some stupid, ineffective attempt to restrict firearms rights. Restricting and eventually eliminating all firearms from the hands of law abiding is part of the plan to load us into boxcars. The shootings are the smokescreen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Wonder if any had and were wearing body armor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuteTheMall Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 "But we know that police across America prefer to kill innocent people – a lot of Black people – who are unarmed. They break down doors all the time, without warning or a warrant and start firing. During the day. At night. It doesn’t matter. Bullets and battering rams first. Questions – if any – later. They shoot Black people in their homes. They shoot Black people in their bedrooms. They shoot Black people in their cars. They shoot Black people on the street. They shoot Black people in the back." Why does MSN reprint Al Jazeera propaganda like this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 MSN. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huaco Kid Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I don't know. I assume the plan is, "I go home, alive, to my family tonight." Whatever communication cluster-fck, or whatever they decide, happened, so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Being a LEO is a tough job, these days even tougher.. Not something I would want to do BUT WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR THE JOB *** IT'S YOUR JOB TO DO IT TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY Reminds me about joining the military ..... YOU SIGNED THE BLANK CHECK 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, DAKA said: Being a LEO is a tough job, these days even tougher.. Not something I would want to do BUT WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR THE JOB *** IT'S YOUR JOB TO DO IT TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY Reminds me about joining the military ..... YOU SIGNED THE BLANK CHECK Apparently the feds are tearing up those checks, since transfers are now allowed if the towns near the bases are not welcoming or to taste. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Pictured is DPS in Stetsons. No matter a chunk of 💩 is a chunk of 💩. The whole thing wreaks of orchestration. Pretty not the Texas way, but Texas is about as diverse as it gets, and getting more so daily. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Cicero Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 8 hours ago, Walt Longmire said: 78 minutes these ******* waited. For a key supposedly. I'm wondering why they needed a key. The shooter got in without one. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I’ve been reading stuff about this and I didn’t really want to voice an opinion cause I know there are cops on this site. I think they totally fucked up on this. They are supposed to serve and protect and they stood by while an off duty cop went in with the barbers shotgun. There is something fishy about this shooting. I see how these cop’s acted and I lose more and more respect for them. Hell parents were willing to go save their kids and they get cuffed and pepper sprayed. Those parents had a right to protect their kids. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Mrs.Cicero said: I'm wondering why they needed a key. The shooter got in without one. Police serve warrants through locked doors frequently. A shotgun would also work as a key. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Doors were outswinging security type doors, part of the schools hardening to keep shooters out. Halligan tool would open them. So would a good axe if you knew what you were doing. I don't know what the walls were made of, sometimes doors are the strongest point, if you move over it's only a couple layers of drywall and some metal or wood studs. All the schools around here the doors are the hardest point, walls are weak. My shooter response bag had first aid trauma packs, lots of bullets, water, door stops, extra flashlight, and a good solid prybar. One time we breached a door in a block wall with the pit bumper on a patrol car. You either wait for toys or you get the job done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostinTexas Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Not anti police in the slightest. I have a few very close friends, probably the closest I have, that are LEO. I can't convey what they have said about this whole thing here, Erik would rightfully permaban my sorry hide. In the end, no matter how improbable, once you eliminate the impossible, what is left must be fact. Correct or not, the whole thing smells. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuteTheMall Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 2 hours ago, janice6 said: Police serve warrants through locked doors frequently. A shotgun would also work as a key. A teacher used a rock to hold a door open. Probably for cigarette breaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, ChuteTheMall said: A teacher used a rock to hold a door open. Probably for cigarette breaks. Propped the door open just a few minutes before the shooter entered through that same door. Sounds fishy as hell to me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Longmire Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 I can't imagine standing around waiting for anything while kids are being slaughtered and bleeding out. For 78 minutes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borg warner Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 I don't blame the rank and file Cops but I do blame those who were in charge. But here's the parts of this article I especially did not like: "But we know that police across America prefer to kill innocent people – a lot of Black people – who are unarmed. They break down doors all the time, without warning or a warrant and start firing. During the day. At night. It doesn’t matter. Bullets and battering rams first. Questions – if any – later. They shoot Black people in their homes. They shoot Black people in their bedrooms. They shoot Black people in their cars. They shoot Black people on the street. They shoot Black people in the back. And they often get away with it because most of the police officers doing the chasing, shooting and killing are white." And this: "All this in a state led by a slick Republican governor who prides himself on letting disturbed teenagers buy weapons and bullets designed not only to kill lots of people, including children, fast, but to disfigure their face and body, sometimes beyond recognition. Like the two repellant Republican senators from Texas, he doesn’t “represent” the “state,” but the NRA and profiteering death merchants who prefer the “right” to sell and “bear arms” over the right of fourth graders to go and come back from school to their families – whole. They are cowards, too. They make excuses for the inexcusable. They run away when reporters ask them why so many innocents are massacred so often in America and only in America." And then there was this the article: The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera’s editorial stance. On the contrary, some of these views did very much express the views of Al Jazeera and other anti-American Leftists foreign and domestic, that cops are racists and kill people just because they the power to do so. And it's exactly these kinds of anti-law enforcement attitudes that make police administrators hesitant to use lethal force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tous Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 If law enforcement in America are all rabid. murdering racists, where is the big pile of African bodies? There are around 700,000 police officers and sheriff's deputies in the US. If each racist cop murders just one innocent African per year, where are the almost one million bodies? Gee, mebbe the assertions by Al Jazeera just don't make much sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janice6 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 3 hours ago, ChuteTheMall said: A teacher used a rock to hold a door open. Probably for cigarette breaks. Crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Prayers for the victims and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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