37 Mass Shooters Who Were On Antidepressants

[pipedreams]

Scroll down through the link for names of the shooters.

By Jerome London

Updated September 11, 2019

"But since mass shootings are perpetrated by an extremely tiny minority of gun owners, many of whom don’t even own their guns legally, perhaps it’s naïve to think that gun ownership is itself the sole or even primary cause of mass shootings. Countries such as Norway, France, and Switzerland—all of which have stricter gun laws and lower per-capita gun ownership than the United States—have far higher per-capita rates of mass shootings."

https://thoughtcatalog.com/jeremy-london/2019/09/37-mass-shooters-who-were-on-antidepressants/

[Paul53]

The reason trying to regulate guns is a fools errand is  that it's a mental health problem, not a gun problem. But the the high price of psychiatric care, not to mention the scarcity of such care, make guns a more attractive choice.

Here in Maine (Motto: "The way life should be." Maine is the highest per capita user of anti depressants) if a patient gets an "Urgent" referral for mental health care, the first available appointment will be at least 2 month wait.

The reason most other countries don't have mass shootings is the availability of universal health care without the onerous high co-pays.

But dammit Jim, I'm just a country nurse, not a starship captain!

[janice6]

1 hour ago, pipedreams said:

Scroll down through the link for names of the shooters.

By Jerome London

Updated September 11, 2019

"But since mass shootings are perpetrated by an extremely tiny minority of gun owners, many of whom don’t even own their guns legally, perhaps it’s naïve to think that gun ownership is itself the sole or even primary cause of mass shootings. Countries such as Norway, France, and Switzerland—all of which have stricter gun laws and lower per-capita gun ownership than the United States—have far higher per-capita rates of mass shootings."

https://thoughtcatalog.com/jeremy-london/2019/09/37-mass-shooters-who-were-on-antidepressants/

I went to school a long time ago.  When I went to school, almost every young boy my age had a long gun, rifles and or shotguns.  We would get money from our parents to buy ammunition on Saturdays and go shooting outside of the city limits.  Often with the knowledge of the local police.

We did this all Summer long.  I know of not one of the people in my group  having an accident with a gun where anyone got hurt.

In fact, I had never heard of any school shooting.

It would seem that historically, many youngsters  having/owning a gun never resulted in any gun crimes during my school years.

My point is that with the proliferation of guns back then, and the general view by liberals that guns cause crime and school shootings, something else is at play here. 

Considering the many guns owned and carried around by youngsters, if something would trigger them to hurt others, the chances would have been far greater back then instead of now, when youngsters are rarely going shooting or hunting or even safely handling guns.

The obvious thing is that the gun is not a factor for young people shooting others, but rather a change in society that promotes the anger and fear resulting in an overriding desire to cause the most suffering and pain in their own generation.

What change in society would that be?  Medications? 

Far more youngsters are being medicated since they have never learned how to deal with the disapproval and bullying of their peers.  Now children are expected to meet some norm for behavior that adults deem proper.  They are not allowed to learn how to deal with the world and others who are different than they are.   

The need and desire for adults to medicate children into what they believe is proper behavior, is driving kids nuts.  The adults believe they are shielding children from the inequities of the world and thus are responsible for erratic behavior along with the drug side effects causing psychotic behavior in some.

Then, there are the helicopter parents that want to protect their children from the angst and anxiety of growing up, to that end, they expect the child to act as a grown up.  The child is expected to function both as a child and as a grownup at the same time, while never given the knowledge that used to be collected during their young years as they progressed to adulthood.

You can't protect a child from the world and then expect them to deal with the world at the same time.  I don't really know how to express the idea that children are not learning the social skills at dealing with all kinds of people, both good and bad.  They have parents that protect them so much that the child doesn't know how to ignore another person and walk away, knowing that that other person is different from them and not the kind of company they would want to keep.

Schools started protecting children to the extent that they are now simply government paid baby sitters, and as such, not teaching the child anything about survival in our society.  The parents are also liable for this since it is now considered normal to do what makes them happy, instead of trying to make their children better citizens and spending time helping their children cope.

I have to stop since I feel so frustrated with this subject. Many of us are old enough that we learned that life isn't a reward in itself.  We learned that the reward is in making a good life for you and your family not just for yourself.

F**k it, I'm done!

[pipedreams]

Could SSRI Antidepressants Be One of the Causes Behind These Mass Shootings?

"Mass shootings in the United States have increased dramatically over the last few decades. Those trying to explain the phenomenon have blamed gun laws, social media, white nationalism, extremist politics, pandemic policies—the list goes on. But what if there’s another factor at work here?

Guess what else has soared in the last few decades? The use of anti-depression medication, especially SSRIs. It was in 1987 that the first selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor, commonly known as an SSRI, was developed and it quickly became the standard. You’ve probably heard its name–Prozac. Other SSRIs were soon produced, and SSRIs are now the most prescribed antidepressant in the US."

https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2022/05/26/could-ssri-antidepressants-be-one-of-the-causes-behind-these-mass-shootings-n570142

"We all know that every FDA warning label will scare the pants off if you read it closely, but this one seems especially concerning. The National Institutes of Health way back in 2006 studied the SSRI-violence link in judicial outcomes, and came to this conclusion:

Suicide bombers, like  Manchester terrorist Salman Abedi, are said to be pumped full of drugs before they are sent on a mission, giving them red eyes and a distinctive look of confusion. The drug turns the terrorists into “unforgiving killing machines.”

While the drugs these terrorists use are not SSRIs, as far as I know, they still show what chemicals can do to the brain."

[Ricordo]

9 hours ago, janice6 said:

I'm done!

I understand the frustration. It feels like swimming against the current.

"It turns out that not only did the U.S. not have the most frequent mass shootings, it was No. 62 on the list, lower than places like Norway, Finland, and Switzerland.

There was also no relationship between the rate of gun ownership in different countries and the rate of mass shootings.

If journalists had just demanded Lankford explain his study methods before touting his results, his “more mass shootings” myth would never have spread.

So if Pelosi, Harris, and Warren ever follow through on their threat to declare gun violence a “national emergency,” be sure to check their math. Or just remember the wisdom of the Second Amendment.

Government’s desire to control us—and to lie to make its case—is the real emergency." https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/02/20/the-us-has-the-most-mass-shootings-and-other-bogus-gun-research/

So why do they lie? Is it because of ignorance, or due to evil intent?

 

[Paul53]

Any doctor can prescribe anti depressants just to prove they did "Something" while waiting for a Psych referral to get more definitive care. Severely depressed people aren't the biggest danger. When PROPER treatment starts working it takes time to get from depressed to not depressed. It's in this time that as they gain more energy, suicide risk is highest. Sucks, huh?

[DAKA]

1950 (or so) I used to take my Winchester 69 IIRC, on the NYC Subway from Brooklyn to Manhattan to a range called the Manhattan School Of Firearms. The range was in the sub basement of a building on Cortland St...

The whole area was eventually razed to built the World Trade Center....

The rifle was wrapped in a pillow case and I had 2 boxes of 22 bullets in my pocket !!! 

NOT A PEEP FROM ANYONE

[Paul53]

Dear, there's a 6 ft penguin  at the front door asking for you.