14 indicted in Chattanooga for their role in 9 recent overdose deaths

[gwalchmai]

https://newschannel9.com/news/local/14-indicted-in-chattanooga-for-their-role-in-9-recent-overdose-deaths-say-police-fentanyl-heroin

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. — 14 people face indictments in Chattanooga for their roles in 9 separate overdose deaths going back as far as 2020, Chattanooga Police announced on Thursday.

A CPD release says the investigations into these deaths "have been long in duration and extensive in scope."

The release continues, "Investigators have been incredibly challenged with these cases as they require a level of persistence and an ability to adapt to changing environments not often seen in other areas of investigation."

Here's a list of those indicted and the charges they face:

Overdose Death 8-14-2020

• Indicted: Skylar Lewis B/M 8-2-1991 Charges: 2nd Degree Murder

Overdose Death 9-11-2020

• Indicted: Hunter Rogers W/M 10-9-1996 Charges: Criminally Negligent Homicide, Tampering with Evidence
• Indicted: Genea Davis W/F 11-02-1977 Charges: Criminally Negligent Homicide, Tampering with Evidence

Overdose Death 4-22-2021

• Indicted: Dustin Parris W/M 11-5-1980 Charges: 2nd Degree Murder, Delivery of Fentanyl
• Indicted: Mistee Howard W/F 4-10-1977 Charges: Facilitation of 2nd Degree Murder

Overdose Death 6-20-2021

• Indicted: Joshua Santana W/M 11-07-1997 Charges: Delivery of Methamphetamine
• Indicted: Skylar Lewis B/M 8-2-1991 Charges: Delivery of Fentanyl
• Indicted: Nathan Hudson W/M 2-4-1978 Charges: Delivery of Fentanyl
• Indicted: Malik Massey B/M 10-18-1996 Charges: Delivery of Fentanyl, Tampering with Evidence
• Indicted: Keith Pointer B/M 4-28-1981 Charges: Delivery of Methamphetamine, Facilitation to Deliver Heroin, Tampering with Evidence

Overdose Death 8-27-2021

• Indicted: Taylor Neely W/F 4-11-1997 Charges: 2nd Degree Murder

Overdose Death 9-20-2021

• Indicted: Kori Konran W/F 9-11-1992 Charges: 2nd Degree Murder

Overdose Death 11-29-2021

• Indicted: Joshua Wilson W/M 10-13-1990 Charges: 2nd Degree Murder

Overdose Death 2-9-2022

• Indicted: Cheyenne Anglea W/F 4-18-1993 Charges: 2nd Degree Murder

Overdose Death 2-17-2022

• Arrest Warrant: Ryan Blainey W/M 10-25-1987 Charges: 2nd Degree Murder

[Huaco Kid]

He seems nice.

[kerbie18]

My state trys to do the same thing. When someone dies from a drug overdose, we can go after the dealer for helping to cause the death. Usually our overdoses are due to fentanyol.

[gwalchmai]

1 hour ago, Huaco Kid said:

He seems nice.

Facial tats are a passport to success.

[Maser]

Seems lame to me.  No different than charging gun manufacturers for murder because a nutcase shot up a school.  

[gwalchmai]

20 minutes ago, Maser said:

Seems lame to me.  No different than charging gun manufacturers for murder because a nutcase shot up a school.  

I think the difference here is that these guys were contributing by performing illegal acts. If you supply fentanyl to someone and they fatally OD you erode your moral high ground. Like knowingly selling a firearm to a prohibited person who kills someone with it.

[Maser]

3 minutes ago, gwalchmai said:

I think the difference here is that these guys were contributing by performing illegal acts. If you supply fentanyl to someone and they fatally OD you erode your moral high ground. Like knowingly selling a firearm to a prohibited person who kills someone with it.

 

Well, the way I see it is the drug dealer is dealing just to make money.  Once the drugs leave his hands, I don't feel he's responsible for who uses it or how it's used.  Now if we're talking about a malicious drug dealer who is deliberately poisoning his product for the means of killing his customers, then yeah fry his ass for murder. 

[gwalchmai]

10 minutes ago, Maser said:

 

Well, the way I see it is the drug dealer is dealing just to make money.  Once the drugs leave his hands, I don't feel he's responsible for who uses it or how it's used.  Now if we're talking about a malicious drug dealer who is deliberately poisoning his product for the means of killing his customers, then yeah fry his ass for murder. 

I applaud your libertarian sentiments.

[Walt Longmire]

56 minutes ago, Maser said:

 

Well, the way I see it is the drug dealer is dealing just to make money.  Once the drugs leave his hands, I don't feel he's responsible for who uses it or how it's used.  Now if we're talking about a malicious drug dealer who is deliberately poisoning his product for the means of killing his customers, then yeah fry his ass for murder. 

Well it's not like there are labels on that **** so folks can know what's in it, or the quantities of the ingredients.

[Maser]

1 hour ago, gwalchmai said:

I applaud your libertarian sentiments.

 

[Maser]

22 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said:

Well it's not like there are labels on that **** so folks can know what's in it, or the quantities of the ingredients.

 

True, but drug users know their own vices better than anyone else.  They know their dosage.  They know how long the effect will last.  They know what it does to them. Etc.  Which is why drug users tend to always stay with the same dealers because they know what they're getting.  Even if there were labels on illegal drugs, it wouldn't tell you much.  Hell, there's labels on liquor that tell you the alcohol content, but there's no dosage instructions right?  Also no consideration that alcohol effects people differently and can kill you just as easily as heroin.  Same thing with the weed products at dispensaries.  Tells you the THC content and maybe a minimum dosage for edibles, but that's about it.   

 

[gwalchmai]

1 hour ago, Maser said:

 

True, but drug users know their own vices better than anyone else.  They know their dosage.  They know how long the effect will last.  They know what it does to them. Etc.  Which is why drug users tend to always stay with the same dealers because they know what they're getting.  Even if there were labels on illegal drugs, it wouldn't tell you much.  Hell, there's labels on liquor that tell you the alcohol content, but there's no dosage instructions right?  Also no consideration that alcohol effects people differently and can kill you just as easily as heroin.  Same thing with the weed products at dispensaries.  Tells you the THC content and maybe a minimum dosage for edibles, but that's about it.   

 

Looks like there are were 9 folks who didn't know vices, dosages, effects, or dealers... 

[Mrs.Cicero]

3 hours ago, gwalchmai said:

I think the difference here is that these guys were contributing by performing illegal acts. If you supply fentanyl to someone and they fatally OD you erode your moral high ground. Like knowingly selling a firearm to a prohibited person who kills someone with it.

It's not quite the same, since there's an innocent person injured/killed in the "gun sold to a prohibited person" scenario, where if you do street drugs, you are the only person that dies- and you knowingly took that chance buying those street drugs.  The older I get, the less I care to see the gov't involved in prosecuting victimless crimes - no one forced anyone to take those drugs - they did it to themselves.  It's the same argument against putting johns in jail for buying illegal sex from prostitutes.  If it's legal to give it away, why is it illegal to sell it?  Who is the victim of this crime?  Who did the John harm?  Hell, I think we ought to be able to sell our own kidneys (but not other people's).    I'll stop now, before my inner libertarian starts chanting, "Agorism for the win!"

 

[railfancwb]

11 minutes ago, Mrs.Cicero said:

It's not quite the same, since there's an innocent person injured/killed in the "gun sold to a prohibited person" scenario, where if you do street drugs, you are the only person that dies- and you knowingly took that chance buying those street drugs.  The older I get, the less I care to see the gov't involved in prosecuting victimless crimes - no one forced anyone to take those drugs - they did it to themselves.  It's the same argument against putting johns in jail for buying illegal sex from prostitutes.  If it's legal to give it away, why is it illegal to sell it?  Who is the victim of this crime?  Who did the John harm?  Hell, I think we ought to be able to sell our own kidneys (but not other people's).    I'll stop now, before my inner libertarian starts chanting, "Agorism for the win!"

 

The prostitute/customer question has nuances.

If the prostitute is of legal age and freely chose that line of work - not a sex slave hooked on drugs and beaten into submission - what’s the problem with sex for hire?

If, to best of the customer’s knowledge, the prostitute is as described in the previous paragraph - what’s the problem with renting sex? 

[Mrs.Cicero]

2 hours ago, railfancwb said:

The prostitute/customer question has nuances.

If the prostitute is of legal age and freely chose that line of work - not a sex slave hooked on drugs and beaten into submission - what’s the problem with sex for hire?

If, to best of the customer’s knowledge, the prostitute is as described in the previous paragraph - what’s the problem with renting sex? 

Exactly - the nuances matter.  If the street drug user is an adult, and not being coerced into buying/taking the drugs, why is it the fault of the seller if the buyer screws up the dosage and dies?  It's not the seller's fault the buyer is an idiot.  Maybe I'm just completely lacking in compassion here.  But I don't see why anyone would assume street drugs were of any particular purity or strength.  They are street drugs.  They don't come with guarantees.  Nobody arrests hookers for giving any particular customer some random STD, do they?  They just get arrested for selling sex, and even that's stupid. 

 

[Maser]

8 minutes ago, Mrs.Cicero said:

 Maybe I'm just completely lacking in compassion here.

 

What is lacking in this country is common sense in regards to personal responsibility.  I personally feel all drugs should be legalized and I mean legalized and not decriminalized.  Just because something is legal doesn't automatically mean someone is gonna do it.  Not everyone who turns 21 is running to the nearest liquor store or dispensary.  When weed started slowly being legalized from state to state, what was the reaction from the anti-drug crowd?  They were literally running around screaming the sky is falling and that everyone was gonna be stoned.  When in actuality DUI/DWI cases dropped in states that legalized weed.  Weed may cause people to act stupid, but it's alcohol that makes people do stupid **** such as drive on the road drunk. 

Bottom line is as adults we are responsible for everything we do.  Even if it's uncontrollable, we learn to take responsibility for it.  

[tous]

Perhaps, but one of the major problems with intoxicated people is that they cannot or will not provide for their own well being.

Assume that those legal drugs are not just given away; alcohol is legal, but not free.

Drug addicts and to a lesser extent, alcoholics don't have jobs or a place to live and their common means of acquiring the means (money) to obtain their drug is to steal from decent, honest people.

Thus, drug addicts and alcoholics are the very definition of irresponsible, no?

If they overdose or pass out in the middle of winter, what is society's responsibility to save them?

Again and again, and again.

I have proposed this before:  addicts and alcoholics are removed from the streets by government force and placed in a facility where they can have all of the drugs and booze they desire, but they must be participating in a rehabilitation program.

They get one chance to restore their sobriety.

If they do, they are released back into the cold, cruel world.

If they decide to get involved with drugs or booze again, no second chance.

They are returned to the facility, provided all the drugs and booze they desire, but no more trying to cure them.  They remain there until they die -- probably not of old age.

At least they won't be stealing from decent citizens or businesses to feed their habit.

 

 

[gwalchmai]

It's my (admittedly imperfect) understanding that libertarianism requires personal responsibility. I think some of y'all are thinking I'm in favor of prohibition, and I'm really not. However, we as a society have accepted prohibition and until we change that we need to hold people responsible for breaking those laws. Otherwise that responsibility will fall on the taxpayers.

[Mrs.Cicero]

On 5/6/2022 at 11:38 PM, Maser said:

 

What is lacking in this country is common sense in regards to personal responsibility.  I personally feel all drugs should be legalized and I mean legalized and not decriminalized.  Just because something is legal doesn't automatically mean someone is gonna do it.  Not everyone who turns 21 is running to the nearest liquor store or dispensary.  When weed started slowly being legalized from state to state, what was the reaction from the anti-drug crowd?  They were literally running around screaming the sky is falling and that everyone was gonna be stoned.  When in actuality DUI/DWI cases dropped in states that legalized weed.  Weed may cause people to act stupid, but it's alcohol that makes people do stupid **** such as drive on the road drunk. 

Bottom line is as adults we are responsible for everything we do.  Even if it's uncontrollable, we learn to take responsibility for it.  

Yep. Recreational weed is legal here in MI.  The sky didn't fall.  There are some issues with figuring out how to determine if someone is driving stoned, so they can be successfully prosecuted.  (I am personally for shooting people who drive under the influence, but that's a completely different story).  Basically, the anti-drug crowd reacted the same as the anti-gun crowd when carry permits were made "shall issue" instead of at the discretion of the county sheriff.  "We're all going to diiiiiii!"  Instead,  teen use dropped measurably - maybe because it's just not "rebellious" anymore (although the legal age to use is 21, like for alcohol, but I don't know).