Rolling stops for energy conservation.

[gwalchmai]

I propose that we make rolling stops (~5mph) legal in order to save gas and make the world a better place. Drivers would still be responsible for moving violations, just as they are at roundabouts. 

I think the good outweighs the bad on this one. Change my mind. 

[ChuteTheMall]

Or we could bring back Obama's "Cash for Clunkers" boondoggle and all buy subsidized electric vehicles.

[railfancwb]

43 minutes ago, ChuteTheMall said:

Or we could bring back Obama's "Cash for Clunkers" boondoggle and all buy subsidized electric vehicles.

Are t there supposedly fields of dead EVs which can’t be recycled because of tge batteries?

[janice6]

13 hours ago, gwalchmai said:

I propose that we make rolling stops (~5mph) legal in order to save gas and make the world a better place. Drivers would still be responsible for moving violations, just as they are at roundabouts. 

I think the good outweighs the bad on this one. Change my mind. 

They already do this in our area.  Except their speed is constant, not slowed down by anything.

[janice6]

10 hours ago, ChuteTheMall said:

Or we could bring back Obama's "Cash for Clunkers" boondoggle and all buy subsidized electric vehicles.

I never understood why I should have to pay for someone else's mistake.

[TBO]

On 5/3/2022 at 9:08 PM, janice6 said:

I never understood why I should have to pay for someone else's mistake.

So you're not paying my student loan off? 

[Wyzz Kydd]

I know my Camaro gets pretty thirsty coming off a complete stop. It would be nice to be able to leave it in 2nd and keep rolling.

[railfancwb]

“Stop. Look. Turn right on red if clear.” Has been the rule since Jimmy Carter. Most drivers seem to have only mastered “Turn right on red.”

[gwalchmai]

1 hour ago, railfancwb said:

“Stop. Look. Turn right on red if clear.” Has been the rule since Jimmy Carter. Most drivers seem to have only mastered “Turn right on red.”

I thought it was long before Jimmah. 

What about roundabouts? 

[railfancwb]

18 minutes ago, gwalchmai said:

I thought it was long before Jimmah. 

What about roundabouts? 

Roundabouts are the Devil’s revenge on drivers

[Walt Longmire]

6 hours ago, Wyzz Kydd said:

I know my Camaro gets pretty thirsty coming off a complete stop. It would be nice to be able to leave it in 2nd and keep rolling.

My KW does also. When empty I use higher gears to leave the light.

[minervadoe]

I was riding my bike yesterday and I came to a full stop at a stop sign.  As I moved through the intersection a man in an expensive BMW just could not bring himself to completely stop his car.  Instead, performing the exalted "rolling stop."  I could not tell if he A) did not see me, B) was drunk, C) wanted to run me down, or D) was just going to time it so that I would roll by just after he began to lurch forward again.  SO, I had to come to a complete stop a second time, while he waved me on with some inane apologetic look on his face.

[janice6]

7 hours ago, TBO said:

So you're not paying my student loan off? 

Nope!  I decline.  

[gwalchmai]

18 minutes ago, minervadoe said:

I was riding my bike yesterday and I came to a full stop at a stop sign.  As I moved through the intersection a man in an expensive BMW just could not bring himself to completely stop his car.  Instead, performing the exalted "rolling stop."  I could not tell if he A) did not see me, B) was drunk, C) wanted to run me down, or D) was just going to time it so that I would roll by just after he began to lurch forward again.  SO, I had to come to a complete stop a second time, while he waved me on with some inane apologetic look on his face.

Sorry. 

[miketx]

7 hours ago, TBO said:

So you're not paying my student loan off? 

 

[miketx]

1 hour ago, Walt Longmire said:

My KW does also. When empty I use higher gears to leave the light.

Not to good for the clutch.

[Wyzz Kydd]

Sometimes I skip 3rd and/or 4th and go straight to 5th.

[gwalchmai]

25 minutes ago, Wyzz Kydd said:

Sometimes I skip 3rd and/or 4th and go straight to 5th.

I sometimes use my 6MT as a 4 (1, 3, 5, 6) or even a 3 (1, 3, 6).

[minervadoe]

6 hours ago, gwalchmai said:

Sorry. 

I thought it looked like you.  But I wasn't sure if I should say anything.

We're good.  It's all rainbows and skittles now. 

[Walt Longmire]

13 hours ago, miketx said:

Not to good for the clutch.

I'm not slipping it. There's 18 gears there. It's as if I had a higher rear end ratio if I use a 3rd or 4th to get going rather than deep under.

[Wyzz Kydd]

12 hours ago, gwalchmai said:

I sometimes use my 6MT as a 4 (1, 3, 5, 6) or even a 3 (1, 3, 6).

6 is so tall I only use it if I’m interstate cruising at 80 mph plus. I can average over 20 mpg turning 2,000 rpm’s at 90 mph.

[gwalchmai]

3 hours ago, Walt Longmire said:

I'm not slipping it. There's 18 gears there. It's as if I had a higher rear end ratio if I use a 3rd or 4th to get going rather than deep under.

I was thinking the same. Engineering 'Splained guy disagrees, though. 

 

[Walt Longmire]

5 hours ago, gwalchmai said:

I was thinking the same. Engineering 'Splained guy disagrees, though. 

 

Comparing a car to a class 8 truck with an 18 speed and 4.56 gears doesn't work.

[LostinTexas]

On 5/3/2022 at 7:22 AM, gwalchmai said:

I propose that we make rolling stops (~5mph) legal in order to save gas and make the world a better place. Drivers would still be responsible for moving violations, just as they are at roundabouts. 

I think the good outweighs the bad on this one. Change my mind. 

People around here roll through stop signs regularly. The idiots can't see you and yield right of way with a full stop and 5 seconds. I can't count the times my RED car with DRL's has been forced to emergency brake, sometimes the car doing it, every week.

Giving these fools the option of being more foolish isn't a good idea. Everyone is "Too Busy" to pay attention to driving as it is.

Then there is the fool behind the lesser fool with no intention of stopping, but the lesser fool does stop and gets hit because fool #2 is paying attention to their phone or radio, or Apple Car, because they "can handle it". At least fool #1 has a car to protect them, unless on a bike or walking. Yep, sounds great.

[Cougar_ml]

So if we're going to do everything in the name of fuel economy, isn't it time to bring back the old double nickle?