Americans on the Move, Looking for Less Populated and Greener Pastures

[pipedreams]

“Vote with your feet,” said President Ronald Reagan in 1982.

"Forty years later, many Americans are still heeding his advice and moving to what they see as greener pastures.

“Six of the top 10 states in terms of move-ins have a population density of less than 100 people per square mile. Also, people are moving into metropolitan and even rural areas rather than into densely populated urban centers.

According to the study, the six states with the nation’s worst move-out numbers are New Jersey (71 percent moving out), Illinois (67 percent), New York (63 percent), Connecticut (60 percent), California (59 percent), and Michigan (58 percent moving out).

The Florida move-in to move-out ratio placed the Sunshine State in the top five in the nation, behind Vermont (74 to 26), South Dakota (69 to 31), South Carolina (63 to 37), and West Virginia (63 to 37)."

https://www.theepochtimes.com/americans-on-the-move-looking-for-less-populated-and-greener-pastures_4194682.html

[Walt Longmire]

Overwhelmed here. We have 1 person per square mile already.

[tadbart]

It hasn't hurt my feelings at all to not be in Florida this winter. I know it's the 3rd most populous state- Surprised it is only 8th by population density. What I also know is, my little corner of heaven in Colorado is a LOT less densely populated. When I become a resident here, I'll do my part to redden this state back up. 

[Mrs.Cicero]

Well.  I'm here in Michigan, not one little tiny bit surprised at being #5 on the move-out list.  I'd leave if I could, too.  Wretched Gretchen is a complete loon and the state gov't agencies are entirely, completely incompetent and corrupt.

[tadbart]

Sure seems like we are ready for 2 countries. How to split this up is the tough part. Those teat-suckers NEED us producers. Won't let it go without a fight.

[Walt Longmire]

25 minutes ago, tadbart said:

It hasn't hurt my feelings at all to not be in Florida this winter. I know it's the 3rd most populous state- Surprised it is only 8th by population density. What I also know is, my little corner of heaven in Colorado is a LOT less densely populated. When I become a resident here, I'll do my part to redden this state back up. 

Alaska is like that black and white cookie, except we're red and blue. The bush is blue because they want ALL the handouts. The rest of the state is red.

[tadbart]

2 minutes ago, Walt Longmire said:

Alaska is like that black and white cookie, except we're red and blue. The bush is blue because they want ALL the handouts. The rest of the state is red.

Well, other than the National Parks, I can get by on ANC, the Alaska and Kenai Peninsulas, and the oil fields. The eskimos can have the skeeters and the bush. Question is, what y'all gon do about those pothead hippies in town?

[Huaco Kid]

We moved to the middle of dairy farms 25 years ago (into a 60 year old apple-farmer's house).

The county that Pittsburgh is in had democratic'd itself up so bad,  that everyone (and business) has bolted over the county line.

Now the farms drop,  one by one,  and turn into 400 house "subdivisions".

We've still got cows across the street,  but it's coming fast.

 

[Huaco Kid]

My wife wants to retire in Florida.

I'm aiming for a couple shipping containers in someplace that has no address.

[railfancwb]

On 1/5/2022 at 7:40 PM, tadbart said:

Sure seems like we are ready for 2 countries. How to split this up is the tough part. Those teat-suckers NEED us producers. Won't let it go without a fight.

And that is exactly why Lincoln wouldn’t let the South go. Needed cheap raw materials and a market for tariff protected manufactured goods. And up to that point secession was considered allowed by the Constitution. 

[railfancwb]

On 1/5/2022 at 10:03 PM, Huaco Kid said:

We moved to the middle of dairy farms 25 years ago (into a 60 year old apple-farmer's house).

The county that Pittsburgh is in had democratic'd itself up so bad,  that everyone (and business) has bolted over the county line.

Now the farms drop,  one by one,  and turn into 400 house "subdivisions".

We've still got cows across the street,  but it's coming fast.

 

Getting more and more of that here. County runs a water main along a paved road. Farms on both sides of the road carve off one or two acre parcels and sell them. (FWIW a 200 by 200 foot parcel is slightly under an acre. Two acres usually needed for septic tank field.) current mortgage interest rate in the 3% range for 30 year fully amortizing mortgage and $300 to $400 thousand McMansion houses pop up on those parcels.

Farmers with very large acreage normally hold back a parcel or two for roads into the center for mass subdivision, which requires the subdivider to provide streets, water, other utilities and sometimes sewers.

Selling those road frontage parcels is also known as harvesting low hanging fruit. 

[railfancwb]

Really, those fleeing Democrat run plantations should leave their voting habits behind. Will they?

[NPTim]

3 minutes ago, railfancwb said:

Really, those fleeing Democrat run plantations should leave their voting habits behind. Will they?

No