Silentpoet Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 https://www.ky3.com/2021/12/30/drunken-drivers-would-pay-child-support-if-parent-is-killed-crash-under-proposed-missouri-law/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Public hanging. I’ve got a real bad ******* attitude about drunk drivers. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_ml Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Heinlein wrote in one of his books that killing someone in Luna was considered a civil infraction, the fine being the estimated production that person could produce over the rest of their lifetime. I'm not opposed to having the punishment for crimes being "cruel and unusual", because making the punishment nice and friendly doesn't do anything to deter crime. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO Fugga Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/30/2021 at 11:50 PM, Batesmotel said: Public hanging. I’ve got a real bad ******* attitude about drunk drivers. Me too. Watched my brother get smoked by one. I say hold the Entraillympics. Whoever has the longest gut wins. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batesmotel Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Demolition derby. 100 drunks in cars. 100 acres of open land. Last one alive gets a full pardon but never allow to drive again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Even “user friendly” executions. If carried out routinely and promptly while memories and hurts are still fresh, would soon be effective reminders of a price to be paid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Too many times ....it's the ??? # offense 1 is TOO MANY 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKA Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 12:50 AM, Batesmotel said: Public hanging. I’ve got a real bad ******* attitude about drunk drivers. I still like the GUILLOTINE Works every time 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1st DUI - lose license for one year 2nd DUI - lose license for five years 3rd DUI - lose license permanently ANY conviction of driving on suspended license - lose license permanently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO Fugga Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 hour ago, gwalchmai said: 1st DUI - lose license for one year 2nd DUI - lose license for five years 3rd DUI - lose license permanently ANY conviction of driving on suspended license - lose license permanently This policy is why we have too many DUI deaths. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Cicero Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 hours ago, gwalchmai said: 1st DUI - lose license for one year 2nd DUI - lose license for five years 3rd DUI - lose license permanently ANY conviction of driving on suspended license - lose license permanently Wayyyyyyy tooooo lenient. If someone is too stupid to call an Uber instead of driving drunk, they need to be removed from the gene pool, immediately and with extreme prejudice. I will pull the trigger myself and we can all write off my sociopathic tendencies to the TBI caused by a drunk driver when I wasn't even 2 years old. It'll be poetic justice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 hours ago, MO Fugga said: This policy is why we have too many DUI deaths. We don't have a policy anywhere near this strict now, do we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Mrs.Cicero said: Wayyyyyyy tooooo lenient. If someone is too stupid to call an Uber instead of driving drunk, they need to be removed from the gene pool, immediately and with extreme prejudice. I will pull the trigger myself and we can all write off my sociopathic tendencies to the TBI caused by a drunk driver when I wasn't even 2 years old. It'll be poetic justice. That would be effective, but I doubt you could get it implemented. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul53 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 6 hours ago, gwalchmai said: 1st DUI - lose license for one year 2nd DUI - lose license for five years 3rd DUI - lose license permanently ANY conviction of driving on suspended license - lose license permanently Las Cruces, NM. 1990's iirc. Older guy arrested for DWI. District attorney started getting court orders to go into(proper term?) old court records. In the previous 2 1/2 years, records showed 16 arrests for DWI (Naturally 16 is only times he was caught). No record of EVER having a license or who bought him the cars. FINALLY, a judge with some cojones gave him 10 years in state prison! Would be in his 70's when released. I'm with ya gwalchmai, I was a paramedic in the area back then. But 16? You can drive without a license, but what about driving without a car? If the law doesn't deter the crime,change the law until it does! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO Fugga Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, gwalchmai said: We don't have a policy anywhere near this strict now, do we? Some states lock you up on the second or third time. But not for long enough. Nothing stops these assholes except death or a long sentence actually carried out. It's one of the few things I support harsh mandatory minimum sentencing for. Edited January 3, 2022 by MO Fugga 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwalchmai Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, MO Fugga said: Some states lock you up on the second or third time. But not for long enough. Nothing stops these assholes except death or a long sentence actually carried out. It's one of the few things I support harsh mandatory minimum sentencing for. Yeah, that's my point. Polite but firm sentence the first time. And mean it. I guess I should have said jail time for driving without a license. I don't see it happening, though, because drunks make the laws. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maser Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I'm really not a fan of the whole set BAC levels that we all have to follow because we are all different and hold our liquor in different ways. Hell, I got one friend who can drink circles around me when it comes to wine or hard liquor, but a single sip of beer and he pukes like Linda Blair. The solution I always had in mind was that when you are 21 and over, anytime you renew your driver's license, you also take tests where you deliberately drink alcohol in excess so that way you can find your own custom limit. It's absolutely ridiculous that a BAC of 0.08% has to apply to EVERYONE. I'm not trying to condone drinking and driving, just saying we all are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 The reason penalties for drunk driving are so mild is because elected officials drive drunk, all the time. Judges drive drunk. Lawyers drive drunk. Heck, cops drive drunk and they should know better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 A person must have a vehicle to drive drunk. If you cannot own a vehicle because you have driven while drunk, what is the situation for the person who lends or rents a vehicle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar_ml Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 2 hours ago, railfancwb said: A person must have a vehicle to drive drunk. If you cannot own a vehicle because you have driven while drunk, what is the situation for the person who lends or rents a vehicle. to rent a vehicle you're required to provide a license. If a vehicle is lent to a person without a license, then that's their fault, and vehicle being confiscated will teach them very quickly not to lend vehicles to people without checking first. Some off road vehicles don't require a license in order to purchase, so I've heard of DUIs on riding lawnmowers and the like. In some states a DUI extends to things like riding horses, so no, technically you don't have to have a vehicle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MO Fugga Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Cougar_ml said: to rent a vehicle you're required to provide a license. If a vehicle is lent to a person without a license, then that's their fault, and vehicle being confiscated will teach them very quickly not to lend vehicles to people without checking first. Some off road vehicles don't require a license in order to purchase, so I've heard of DUIs on riding lawnmowers and the like. In some states a DUI extends to things like riding horses, so no, technically you don't have to have a vehicle. Drunk boating is huge around here, and there are no speed limits except near bridges and no-wakes. And hundreds of places or people to rent from for anything that floats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmohme Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 9:31 AM, gwalchmai said: 1st DUI - lose license for one year 2nd DUI - lose license for five years 3rd DUI - lose license permanently ANY conviction of driving on suspended license - lose license permanently Thats too many strikes. I am ok with one year for the first offense unless someone was injured or killed. 2nd should be permanent suspension. Drivers licenses are issued far to freely anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railfancwb Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 46 minutes ago, jmohme said: Thats too many strikes. I am ok with one year for the first offense unless someone was injured or killed. 2nd should be permanent suspension. Drivers licenses are issued far to freely anyway. Presence or absence of drivers license has no effect on those who would drive drunk. last time I was rear ended was by a woman whose license was suspended except for a designated route to/from her job. I was not on that route when she hit me. A country music singer was known to use a riding lawnmower to get to the bar when his wife took the car keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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