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THIS needs a poll....Christmas   x___________________

                                    Not Christmas  x______________          :chatter:

                                   Probably just a movie that has CHRISTMAS in it's content   ???    x________________

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Several years back,  they gave Willis a celebrity roast.  (it was pretty funny)

At the end,  it was his turn to fry all of the commentators back.  At the very very end of his speech he said,  "Now I feel like a total failure!  Thank You!! I love you! Die Hard is not a Christmas movie!"  and walked off.

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according to Die Hard's director, it absolutely IS a Christmas movie.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/die-hard-director-confirms-its-a-christmas-movie/ar-BB1ccNCb

If you do a Twitter search for "Die Hard Christmas movie," you'll find yourself stuck in a rabbithole of valid arguments for either side. If that's your thing, then by all means go for it.

Die Hard Director John McTiernan weighed in on the debate and we now finally have an authoritative answer to the long-debated question. Yes, Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

 

McTiernan took part in an "Behind the Scene" interview with the American Film Institute and explained how the movie evolved into a Christmas classic.

At first, McTiernan said Die Hard started off as "a terrorist movie."

"[Producer] Joel [Silver] sent me the script three, four times," he said. "And it was about these horrible leftist terrorists that come into the sort of Valhalla of capitalism, Los Angeles, and they bring their guns and their evil ways and they shoot up people just celebrating Christmas -- terrible people, awful. And it was really about the stern face of authority stepping into put things right again, you know?"

"And I kept saying to Joel, I don't want to make that movie," he added.

McTiernan was inspired by the Pottersville scene in It's a Wonderful Life and felt the best way to get across his anti-capitalist message was to make the movie reminiscent of a Christmas film.

"I went to Joel. And I said, 'OK, if you want me to make this terrorist movie, I want to make it where the hero in the first scene when the limo driver apologizes that he's never been in a limo before. The hero says it's alright. I've never ridden in a limo before,'" he said, adding, "OK, working class hero."

"This was a movie where the hero was a real human being, and the people of authority -- all of the important folks -- were all portrayed as kind of foolish," McTiernan added.

"Everybody, as they came to work on the movie, began to get ... this idea of this movie as an escapee," he said. "And there was a joy in it. Because we ... had changed the content. And that is how 'Die Hard' became -- we hadn't intended it to be a Christmas movie -- but the joy that came from it is what turned it into a Christmas movie. And that's really the best I can tell you about it."

So there you have it. Die Hard is a Christmas movie.

 

 

https://movieweb.com/die-hard-christmas-movie/

https://theconversation.com/nine-reasons-why-die-hard-really-is-a-christmas-film-173801

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I just love that this debate is a thing. We Americans will argue about damned near anything. :greensupergrin: BTW, Chevy over Ford, hands down. Of course old school Mopar could wipe its ass with both of them. :devildance:

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It beats a lot of the other “Christmas” movies out there. 
 

Take a crappy boy meets girl-boy loses girl-boy gets girl back script no one wants to film. Rewrite it set at Christmas and it’s a freaking Hallmark Movie of the Week. Still sucks but sucks at Christmas. 

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21 minutes ago, Eric said:

I just love that this debate is a thing. We Americans will argue about damned near anything. :greensupergrin: BTW, Chevy over Ford, hands down. Of course old school Mopar could wipe its ass with both of them. :devildance:

Interesting:  I need a new truck.   Was looking at the Colorado.

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11 minutes ago, Historian said:

Interesting:  I need a new truck.   Was looking at the Colorado.

That's a decent looking truck. I think the new Ford Maverick is an interesting light duty truck as well. It has a good size and price point and the Ecoboost I-4 is a good engine.

 

2022-ford-maverick.webp

 

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5 minutes ago, Eric said:

That's a decent looking truck. I think the new Ford Maverick is an interesting light duty truck as well. It has a good size and price point and the Ecoboost I-4 is a good engine.

 

2022-ford-maverick.webp

 

But you just said Chevy over ford.

Interesting.  I was looking at the diesel engine in the Colorado.

I live in a college town, and despite the quality scenery,  I enjoy watching liberals cry when i pass them with an internal combustion engine.

 

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Just now, Historian said:

But you just said Chevy over ford.

Interesting.  I was looking at the diesel engine in the Colorado.

I live in a college town, and despite the quality scenery,  I enjoy watching liberals cry when i pass them with an internal combustion engine.

 

I'm a big fan of diesels. I didn't know they offered one with the Colorado. The availability of 4 and 6-cylinder turbo-diesels is something that the Euros are doing WAY better than us.

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3 minutes ago, Eric said:

I'm a big fan of diesels. I didn't know they offered one with the Colorado. The availability of 4 and 6-cylinder turbo-diesels is something that the Euros are doing WAY better than us.

Today's four and six cylinder engines are amazing compared to the past.  Great engines.  Let alone one made for diesel.

But i do need a light truck. I don't need to tow New Jersey in to the Atlantic, just yet.

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Another less-than-traditional Christmas movie, that IS a Christmas movie. There are presents and decorations and snow and a dead Santa trapped in a chimney. It doesn't get any more Christmassy than that!

 

 

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Santa's Slay
2005

(1/5 stars)

Bill Goldberg, Douglas Smith, Emilie De Ravin

Director: David Steinman

MoviesChristmasComedy

105 mins, TVMA, HD, Captioned

The demon Santa becomes a giver of toys after losing a bet, but now the wager has run out.

 

 

On now.  I've never seen it before.  I took a zonk-out-nap,  so I'm wide awake.

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